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OpenStudy (zepp):

\[\LARGE (-1)^{\frac{5}{9}}\] Doesn't equal to 1 or -1?? http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28-1%29%5E%285%2F9%29

OpenStudy (zepp):

\[\LARGE (-1)^{\frac{5}{9}}=(-1)^{\frac{50}{90}}=\sqrt[90]{(-1)^{50}}=\sqrt[90]{1}=1 \]

OpenStudy (zepp):

Wolfram|Alpha says no: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28-1%29%5E%285%2F9%29 Googles says no: http://puu.sh/MFqd Calculator says -1.

OpenStudy (zepp):

?????

OpenStudy (rsadhvika):

something to do with taking even root of a negative number

OpenStudy (zepp):

\[\LARGE \sqrt[9]{-1^5}=\sqrt[9]{-1}\]

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

-1

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

because num and den are odd

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-1^{5/9}=\sqrt[9]{-1^5}=\sqrt[9]{-1}=-1^{1/9}=-1\] that means that when you multiply -1 nine times by itself you will get -1 think of the cubic root of -27

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

(-1)^(odd/odd) = -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes parity will help here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my calculator says math error.. :|

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

(-1)^(even/odd) = 1 (-1)^(even/even) = 1 (-1)^(odd/even) = i

OpenStudy (zepp):

Wolfram said otherwise!

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

wolf ram says its -0.17

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

\[\huge \sqrt[90]{1^{50}} = \pm 1\]

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

i mean \[\huge \sqrt[90] 1 = \pm 1\]

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

im confused

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Igbasallote i dont think that's correct..!!

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

\[\huge (-1)^{90} = 1\] \[\huge(1)^{90} = 1\]

OpenStudy (zepp):

\[\large \pm1\].. 1 can't satisty \(\LARGE \sqrt[9]{-1}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly my response

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

\[\huge (-1)^{\frac 59} \ne (-1)^{\frac{50}{90}}\]

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

nope

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

thats even/even

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

oh wait...

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

?????????????? (-1)^(5/9) = -1

OpenStudy (zepp):

Are you telling me \(\LARGE \frac{5}{9}\ne\frac{50}{90}\)???????

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

sort of

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

odd/odd is not even/even

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

im telling you that raising it to 5/9 is different from raising it to 50/90

OpenStudy (zepp):

So, \(\LARGE 5^{\frac{1}{1}}\ne5^{\frac{10}{10}}\)

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

yes it is

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

show me what you do to (-1)^(5/9) to make it (-1)^(50/90)

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

you cant play around with it like its a ratio because its not, its something raised to a ratio. not the same thing

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

just because 1 out of 2 cars are mine does not mean 10 out of 20 are:)

OpenStudy (zepp):

\[\LARGE (-1)^{\frac{5}{9}}=(-1)^{\frac{5}{9}*1}=(-1)^{\frac{5}{9}*\frac{10}{10}}=(-1)^{\frac{50}{90}}\]And I can play around with the exponent, it's just a fraction!

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

ok i guess its broke then?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

you will run into the same problem with any odd/odd you change to even/even

OpenStudy (accessdenied):

I seem to be getting a variety of results for some of these,.. 1. (-1)^(5/9) is a complex number according to both Wolfram and Google 2.. (-1)^(1/9) is -1 according to Google, but not Wolfram (Complex) 3. (-1)^5 is -1 for both Google and Woflram 4. ((-1)^5)^(1/9) is -1, according to Google, but not Woflram (Complex) 5. ((-1)^(1/9))^5 is -1 according to Google, but not Wolfram (Complex) 6. ((-1)^(1/90)) is a complex number again by both Google and Wolfram 7. ((-1)^(50))^(1/90) is 1 according to both Woflram and Google. (3.), (6.), and (7.) were expected... but the others are interesting. I'd love to hear some explanation for these, if it's like some complex number magic that I never learned or something. D:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(-1)^{\frac{5}{9}} \\= e^{\frac{5}{9}\;\ln(-1) } \\= e^{i\frac{5\pi }{9}} \text{ applying Euler's formula } \\= \cos\left(\frac{5\pi}{9} \right)+i\sin\left(\frac{5\pi}{9} \right)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

more generally \[(-1)^n = \cos\left(n\pi \right)+i\sin\left(n \pi \right),\quad n\in \mathbb{C}\] I think

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