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OpenStudy (anonymous):

pls HELP..... answer the second part of the 25th question in the attached paper.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you want a^2+b^2-5ab ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just to make is easy ! let's calculate ab first \[\frac{\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{2}}.\frac{\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2}}\] can you do that .?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it = 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no ! why 2 .?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

notice that \[a=\frac{1}{b}\] do you see that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just answer please ! @basith

OpenStudy (anonymous):

id nt get it ....:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya i notice that....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now if you see that \[a=\frac{1}{b}\] ab= ...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u show me all of i step by step.....then ill understand it better

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kk ! np at all ! just I advise you to do exercises by yourself ! then you'll learn how to solve them !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ill understand it better because im used to studying like this...........first ill understand the steps by lookin....then try othere quest.. like it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a=\frac{1}{b} ====>ab=1\text{"we multiplied by "b" both sides"}\] then 5ab=5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now let's calculate a^2 :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first we can "simplify" a !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

equation will be more help instead of ...like a^2......sry 4 he trouble

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hw is a a=1/b ??????

OpenStudy (phi):

do you know that (a+b)(a-b)= a^2-b^2 it is very useful for this problem also, multiply these expressions using FOIL : just as if it were (x+y)*(x+y)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[a=\frac{\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{2}} ===>a=\frac{(\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2})(\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2})}{(\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{2})(\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2})}\] \[\text{using (x-y)(x+y)=(}x^2-y^2)\] we rationalize the denominator a become \[a=\frac{(\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2})^2}{{\sqrt{3}^{2}-\sqrt{2}}^2"=3-2=1"}\] then a= \[a=(\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2})^2\] can you calculate a ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you do that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(\sqrt{3}^{2}-2\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}+\sqrt{2^{2}})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[3-2\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}+2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

= \[5-2\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

am i correct???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

good ! now you can easily calculate : a ^2 yeaah ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(5-2\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2})^{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=\[25-24= 1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x-y)^2=x^2+y^2-2xy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya..so.....\[(5)^{2}-2\times5\times2\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}+(2\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2})^{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=\[25-20\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}+24\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=\[49-20\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

/???right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to go ! Can you do the same for b ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ill try ...thnx 4 the help ^_^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hw to find 5ab

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you see that \[\frac{1}{\frac{\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{2}}}\\ \text{can you calculate this?}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

idid nt under stand...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just can you calculate what I typed ?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just answer to my question ! Don't think about the exercise :) :) !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if we do the calculations we shud get \[1\div 49-20\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with no calculation please ! Just \[\frac{1}{\frac{x}{y}}=\frac{y}{x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you see it now ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isnt 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait....1min

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya......i got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ab=?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

donno :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{1}{b}=a\] did you see that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hw is 1/b = a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh ! I told you that \[\frac{1}{\frac{x}{y}}=\frac{y}{x}\] do you see that is like "x/y" ! if you diidn't see that ...I can show something else kk ?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you see that b is in form x/y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes....but where does 1 cm from

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kk forget about that ! I'll show you something else kk ?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ab=\frac{(\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{2})}{(\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2})}.\frac{(\sqrt{3}-\sqrt{2})}{(\sqrt{3}+\sqrt{2})}\] can you calculate this ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you see that the nominator of the first one is the denominator of the second one ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and also the nominator of the second is denominator of the first ! what can you do in this case ?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cn u tell me.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im nt good at this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to go now ! I'll call for help ! kk ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thnx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kk ! I'll give an example \[\frac{5}{4}.\frac{4}{5}\] =??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes ! How did you do that ?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's the same for ab ....see now ?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so thats 5ab = 5 vright????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeeah !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait a sec.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so according to the equation after the calculations we get, \[a ^{2}+b ^{2}-5ab\] =\[49-20\sqrt{3}\sqrt{2}+49+20\sqrt{3}2\sqrt{2}-5\times1\] =\[98-5\] =93....am i correct???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think so ! It seems correct ! Wait I'll check again !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah ! that 's correct !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

couldnt hv done it without u........thnx a lot

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you're welcome ! :) !

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