Please help! Reduce cos(30degrees-theta) - cos(30degrees+theta) to a single term. a. sintheta b. sqrt3 sintheta c. -sintheta d. -sqrt3 sintheta
use the formula for cos(A+B) and the one for cos(A-B)
do you know these formulas?
Can you please give them to me? :/
have a look on this site: http://www.mathsisfun.com/algebra/trigonometric-identities.html scroll down to the section titled: Angle Sum and Difference Identities
its near the very bottom of the page
ughh I tried solving it but I failed: answer is sin theta http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28cos+30+cos+theta+%2B+sin+30+sin+theta%29+-+%28cos30+cos+theta+-+sin30+sin+theta%29 If you could explain how to solve it, I will be grateful asnaseer.
@JoshDavoll you should not give the answer out. It is better to guide the user to the answer. That way they learn more.
Well I've been trying to solve it as well thanks to your guidance. Can you please explain though?
Oh sorry, asnaseer.
what have you tried so far @IloveCharlie ?
@JoshDavoll so you used wolfram to solve?
if you list each step then I can try and spot where you may have made a mistake.
@IloveCharlie - yeah, I broke the problem into cos(x+y) = cosxcosy-sinxsiny, and cos(x-y) = cosxcosy+sinxsiny.
Yes, same. I used the formula and link asnaseer provided.
but after breaking them down to those identities, I got stuck :)
you are both thinking along the right lines. so what you need to do is to convert this: cos(30degrees-theta) - cos(30degrees+theta) into: cos(x-y) - cos(x+y) and expand this using the formulas
here I have let x=30, y=theta
@IloveCharlie can you try doing that and let me know what you get?
Just a sec
ok :)
When I plugged it into my calc I got 0. I plugged it into wolfram as well http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cos%2830-theta%29+-+cos%2830%2Btheta%29
no - do NOT use a calculator - you don't need to use one here - just use algebra
we know cos(x+y) = cos(x)cos(y) - sin(x)sin(y) and cos(x-y) = cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y) use these expansions to work out what cos(x-y) - cos(x+y) = ?
and leave the result in terms of x and y.
(cos30cos(theta)+sin30sin(theta)) - (cos30cos(theta)-sin30sin(theta)) right?
work with x and y please
oh right
we can substitue in the correct values at the very end
@IloveCharlie do you understand or do you want me to explain in more detail?
(cosxcosy+sinxsiny) - (cosxcosy - sinxsiny) right?
yes - and please let ILoveCharlie work this out.
oh okay..sure..
Oh yes! I understand now! Thanks so much for the help and explanation!
so what do you get for the expression cos(x-y) - cos(x+y) = ?
sintheta! :)
:/ I wasn't asking for the final answer, I wanted to know what you got for: cos(x-y) - cos(x+y) = ?
Well I was able to plug in x and y to the formula and got sintheta. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28cos30costheta%2Bsin30sintheta%29+-+%28cos30costheta+-+sin30sintheta%29
remember wolfram will not be with you in the exams
:/ sorry. I shouldn't have said anything before..
np @JoshDavoll - at least you understand why now :)
asnaseer, can you still walk me through it? :)
sure...
so, we started with: we know cos(x+y) = cos(x)cos(y) - sin(x)sin(y) and cos(x-y) = cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y) use these expansions to work out what cos(x-y) - cos(x+y) = ?
thanks! so reduces to (cosxcosy+sinxsiny) - (cosxcosy - sinxsiny)
this gives us: cos(x-y) - cos(x+y) = [cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y)] - [cos(x)cos(y) - sin(x)sin(y)] = cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y) - cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y) = 2sin(x)sin(y) agreed?
sorry, how did the operator change in the 2nd line to a '+' ?
because: -( a - b ) = -a -(-b) = -a + b
two minuses make a plus
ahh cool, ok I understand, and how did you get to 2sinxsiny?
e.g.: -( 5 - 2 ) = -5 + 2 = -3
^because the - distributes right?
cos(x-y) - cos(x+y) = [cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y)] - [cos(x)cos(y) - sin(x)sin(y)] = cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y) - cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y) = cos(x)cos(y) - cos(x)cos(y) + sin(x)sin(y) + sin(x)sin(y) = 2sin(x)sin(y)
Ahh! right, I understand all of that.
^commutative law right?
good, so finally if we now plug in the actual values we get:\[\cos(30-\theta)-\cos(30+\theta)=2\sin(30)\sin(\theta)\]
(yes commutative law)
and we know sin(30) = 0.5
therefore:\[\cos(30-\theta)-\cos(30+\theta)=2\sin(30)\sin(\theta)=2\times 0.5\times\sin(\theta)=\sin(\theta)\]
:) Awesome explaining. Thank you very much, asnaseer.
np - and I hope you were also following along IloveCharlie :)
it may seem hard at first trying to learn it this way but the benefits will be enormous when it comes to exam time :)
Yes, I have been. Thank you so much both of you!
yw :)
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