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OpenStudy (anonymous):

The following data represents the normal monthly precipitation for a certain city.( I will post the table) Draw a scatter diagram of the data for one period. Find the sinusoidal function of the form (I will post) that fits the data.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1st pic is the tale 2nd pic is for "Find the sinusoidal function of the form___________ that fits the data"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean table srry

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so they want you to find a regression trig equation? or do they want you to interpolate this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have no idea. i think basically they want the sinusoidal function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats a tough one

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well here's the scatter plot of the data

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so the good news is that we can see where it peaks, but the bad news is that there isn't enough data to find out where it bottoms out (or where it repeats)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

my guess is that that point at (1,3.91) is the lowest point, but that's just a wild guess really

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if this is the case though, you can find the following A = (max - min)/2 B = (max+min)/2 w = 2pi/T where T is the period phi can be found by plugging in one point and solving for it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this won't be perfect, but it's the closest you can get (i think)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what would the answer be?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what's the max y value?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

8.19

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what about the min y value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3.91

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so max - min = ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4.28

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now cut that in half

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

to find the amplitude

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2.14

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so A = 2.14

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Now add the max and min, then divide by 2. This will give you the value B

OpenStudy (anonymous):

B=8.005

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm i'm getting 6.05

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

how are you getting that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

opps my mistake ur right. 6.05

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

as for w, you need to find the period (basically the time length it takes to repeat)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how would i find the period?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well this is where the guess work comes in, but it looks like it starts to repeat at x = 12

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oops i mean it starts to dip back down at x = 12, agreed?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

seems like it would be hitting the x axis at 16

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well i guess it repeats, there so this means T = 12 since the length from x = 1 to x = 12 is 12

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so w = 2pi/T w = 2pi/12 w = pi/6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 2.14sin(pi/6 x-(phi))+6.05 how do u figure out phi?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

finally y = A*sin(wx - phi) + B y = 2.14*sin((pi/6)x - phi) + 6.05 6.21 = 2.14*sin((pi/6)(4) - phi) + 6.05 6.21 = 2.14*sin(2pi/3 - phi) + 6.05 6.21 - 6.05 = 2.14*sin(2pi/3 - phi) 0.16 = 2.14*sin(2pi/3 - phi) 0.16/2.14 = sin(2pi/3 - phi) 0.07476635 = sin(2pi/3 - phi) sin(2pi/3 - phi) = 0.07476635 2pi/3 - phi = arcsin(0.07476635) Can you take it from here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im confused.. :/ what are you trying to do?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm solving for phi

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

think of phi as a variable

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so having this, 2pi/3 - phi = arcsin(0.07476635) how would i solve for phi?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

2pi/3 - phi = arcsin(0.07476635) 2pi/3 - phi = 4.28779745 ... use the "arcsine" feature on your calculator - phi = 4.28779745 - 2pi/3 - phi = 2.19340235 phi = -2.19340235

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so 2.14sin(pi/6 x-(-2.19))+6.05 is the answer?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Yes, it's an approximation though (see graph attached) because it doesn't go through every point. This is known as an regression equation (or regression curve).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so y=2.14sin(pi/6 x-(-2.19))+6.05 i have to put the y= part right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes you can also state it as y=2.14sin(pi/6 x+2.19)+6.05

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank u so much for your time! U are a big help!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

i'm glad

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