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OpenStudy (anonymous):
3x^3+2x^2 +X+5 the derivative
evalauate y' when x=3 need a little help bit rusty
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
in order to the first you lower the power by one like this
3x^2+2x^1+5 that is der right?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
you also have to divide by the original index
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
you divide by 3 because of 3x^3
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
x^n=nx^n-1
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so if I divide by 3, than that would make this x^2 instead of 3x^2 I am on the right track?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
opps ive got mixed up
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y' 3x^2 is X^2 right?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
i should have said times by the index
\[y(x)=ax^n\qquad\Rightarrow\qquad y'(x)=anx^{n-1}\]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
so sorry if i confused you
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so times by index makes 3x^3 Y' 6x^2 right?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
not quite
\[y(x)=3x^3\qquad y'(x)=3\times3x^2\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
here is what I know y' when doing this you lower the power by one and something??
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
when taking the derivative multiply by the power and then lower the power
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so you are telling that power before lowering divide to y'
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
like this 4x^3 so that would be 'y 4 right?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
4x
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
i ment times when i said divide originally , dont divide when taking the derivative
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
can we start over plz..
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yes ,
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y' 4x^2 would y'4x
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y(x)=ax^n\qquad\Rightarrow\qquad y'(x)=n\times ax^{n-1}\]
\[y(x)=4x^2\qquad\Rightarrow\qquad y'(x)=2\times 4x^{2-1}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) would be 8x
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
thats right now
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay so the power is what you are times before lowering the power?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
that is right
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so for another example 10X^5 y'(x) 50x^4
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
you got it \(\checkmark\)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so back to the problem now
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y(x)=3x^3+2x^2 +x+5\]\[y'(x)=\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 6x+4X +5
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
not quite,
note that
\[x=x^1\]\[5=5x^0\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 9x+4+5
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
try again
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 6x^2 +4x+5 +1
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
ok lets do this one term at a time
\[(3x^3)^\prime=\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 9x^2
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
right,
now
\[(2x^2)^\prime=\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 9x^2 +2x
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 9x^2 4+5+1
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
nope
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 9x^2 +4X+5
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
you have the first two terms right,
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[f(x)=x=x^1\]
\[f^\prime(x)=1\times x^{1-1}=x^0=1\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so y'(x) 9x^2+4x+1+5
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
the derivative of the last term
\[g(x)=5=5x^0\]
\[g^\prime(x)=0\times 5x^{0-1}=\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
is 0
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yeah the derivative of a constant is always zero
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the end number unless it has a power drop off?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
thats right
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[f(x)=x^2+5\qquad f'(x)=2x\]\[g(x)=x^2+9\qquad g'(x)=2x\]\[h(x)=x^2−71\qquad f'(x)=2x\]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
that last one is ment to be h'
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
cool love it so far because in math you can't drop anything, in calc 1 you can this is way cool..
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
do you have time to do one more?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yeah can you get the answer to you original question now?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y(x)=3x^3+2x^2 +x+5\]
\[y~'(x)=\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 9x^2+4x+1
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[\Large\color\red\checkmark\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay any other tips here?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y'(x)=\frac{\text dy(x)}{\text dx}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
explain a little??
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
its just a different notation, they men the same thing
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
the second has a bit more information because it explicitly say that we are to take the derivative of the function with respect to x, ie we look at the power of the x terms,
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
dx(x)^1?dx
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the power on the is 1 right?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
just to let know, I am in college not high school
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y(x)=x=x^1\]
\[\frac{\text dy(x)}{\text dx}=y'(x)=1\times x^{1-1}=x^0=1\]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
im not sure what you mean by this
dx(x)^1?dx
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I meant to use / not?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
dx(x)^1/dx \[=\large \frac{\text d(x)^1}{\text dx}\]?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes that is what I meant to type
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[\frac{\text d(x)}{\text dx}=\frac{\text d(x^1)}{\text dx}=1\times x^0=1\]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
im not sure if i am answer your question?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay now for the last question here how do this with y"(x) sin
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes you have
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
should we evaluate y' in the first question when x=3 before that?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(x) 9x^2+4x+1 so plug in 3 so we have y'(x) 9x^2 (3) +4x(3) +1 which is y'(x) 27x^2+ 12X +1
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[y(x)=3x^3+2x^2+x+5\]
\[y'(x)=9x^2+4x+1\]
\[y'(3)=9(3)^2+4(3)+1=9\times3\times3+4\times3+1\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y'(3) 81x^2+12+1
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
12x
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
when you evaluate a function at a particular x value you substitute this value for x in the equation, there should be no x in left when evaluated
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry i mess me up by not putting the like this (3)^2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the answer is F'(3) 81x^2 + 12X +1
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