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OpenStudy (anonymous):
t^(-1)(dy/dt) = 2cos^2(y) ; y(0) = pi/4
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes, yes.... come my minions
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
this is LGB's turn now :P
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh, sorry, what?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
hmm \[\large t^{-1} \frac{dy}{dt} = 2\cos^2 y\]
\[\large \implies \frac{dy}{tdt} = 2\cos^2y\]
so you have to cross multiply...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sooooo: 1/(2cos^2(y))dy = tdt?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
...well if i were you i wont move the 2...
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
but if you wish...that works too
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i think it is more complicated than it looks like :(((
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
actually...it's not @sami-21 lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
no, no, it looks easier if i leave the 2
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
okay let's leave the 2
\[\large \implies\frac{dy}{\cos^2 y} = 2tdt\]
now...recall your trig identities...what is the value of \[\frac{1}{\cos^2 y}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ooooone sec
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
is this an inverse trig func?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
nope
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
i think it's called reciprocal trig function or something...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sec^2(y)?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
yup.
\[\large \implies \sec^2 y dy = 2tdt\]
now integrate both sides
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
you got it :)))
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
dam, so i still need to integrate...
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
me? oh stop it youuu :""">
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
hah cant escape integration in differential equations @IStutts :p hahaha
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
except for higher order linear de...yeah...that has few integrations
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so tan y = t^2 + c?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
yup
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay, now how would I continue from there?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
or at least solve for y
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
...dont you stop there?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
that's rarely done in these cases...but...if you insist...
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
take the arctan of both sides
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so y = arctan(t^2 + c)
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
yup
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
and yea, my teacher is a jerk
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
they all are =))
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so how would i solve for the initial value y(0) = pi/4?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
that means when t = 0 then y = pi/4
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so how did the back of the book get y = arctan ( t^2 + 1 )?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
because c = 1
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yea, that's how picky my teacher is, and we spent one day one separable equations, this section at least
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
just by chance? or is there math i a missing?
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
y(0) = pi/4
\[\tan y = t^2 + c\]
\[\tan (\pi/4) = 0^2 + c\]
\[\1 = c\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
....oookay
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
you didnt get it..did you...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i never memorized the unit circle....
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
oh lol
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
that's gonna be your undoing now :p mwahaha
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yea, it's sad to blame my teacher, but i can only blame myself. in high school, my math teachers said it was rare they would use it, then in college....well, here i am...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i see.... ....said the blind man
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
well it's not too late now
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
eh, i dont think my teacher will be that big of a douche. there will only be 2 of 8 questions from this chapter...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
true true
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OpenStudy (lgbasallote):
maybe this can help you openstudy.com/updates/4f9be55ee4b000ae9ed11844
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
anyways, onto the next one, i think i got 2.2 now
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
thank you
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