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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Change of variable ODE question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hate these question, cannot do them at all. More of a puzzle more than anything. Here's my attempt.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64 any ideas?

OpenStudy (phi):

looks ok, as far as you went. but if v= x/t then x= vt sub in vt for all the x's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have no idea what else I can do now.

OpenStudy (phi):

I would collect terms. I would divide out common terms.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What do you mean, they only extra thing I can do is \[t ^{2}v ^{3}t ^{3}=t ^{5}v ^{3}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That I can see anyway!

OpenStudy (phi):

what about (vt)^4 on both sides of the equation? and there is t^4 in all the terms. multiply both sides by t^(-4)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok dividing by t^4, will cancel with the LHS and get a +1 on the right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm at this point now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It will cancel the other t^4 on the right hand side as well.

OpenStudy (phi):

you made a mistake going to the last line. you can multiply both sides of the equation by t^(-4) that means multiply every term by t^-4

OpenStudy (phi):

or another way to think of it factor out t^4 from each side so you get t^4( v^3 t dv/dt+v^4)= t^4(v^4+1) now multiply both sides by t^-4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like this??

OpenStudy (phi):

2nd term on the left side looks wrong. you start with v^4 t^4 and multiply by t^(-4): t^(-4) * v^4 * t^4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi Sorry, I suck at this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Dividing the whole equation by t^4

OpenStudy (phi):

now subtract v^4 from both sides

OpenStudy (phi):

remember, you know what the answer is, as given in the problem. so you want t dv/dt on the left.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Almost!

OpenStudy (phi):

close. the second to last line is good. if you had 2x-x what do you get do the same for 2v^4 - v^4 the other major point: v^3 does not divide into the 1 up top. so you cannot simplify any further

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THANK YOU!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I hate this question so much, it's not test of calculus at all. It's just a puzzle more than anything

OpenStudy (phi):

it is algebra, and you have to know algebra before calculus. I would learn a few rules of algebra, and then it won't be a puzzle, just methodical work.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

True, I just need to be careful what I am canceling out as well.

OpenStudy (phi):

the problem is you seem to know a lot, but are missing some simple ideas, so it's tough to start at the beginning to fill in the missing blanks, because most of it might be too boring. but based on this question, I would recommend knowing how to combine like terms a^2b^3 + 3a^2b^3 =4 a^2 b^3 of course a^2 b^2 + 3 a^2 b^3 cannot be combined. (different powers for b)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can I try ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Fire ahead, mahmit. You solve equations in record time.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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