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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Solve integrodifferential equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[f(t)=te^{t}+\int_0^t \tau f(t-\tau)d\tau\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got to this but idk if there is just an error i'm doing in partial fractions \[\frac{s^2}{(s-1)^2(s^2-1)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kainui you know DE?

OpenStudy (kainui):

I just started learning, I know very little about laplace transforms. I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice here.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have any clue whats wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually this might be the problem with the wrng answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we did a problem that we couldn't find the answer to in class and found out that s^2+1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait \[\frac{s^2}{(s-1)^2(s^2-1)}=\frac{s^2}{(s-1)^3(s+1)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{s^2}{(s-1)^3(s+1)}=\frac{A}{s-1}+\frac{B}{(s-1)^2}+\frac{C}{(s-1)^3}+\frac{D}{s+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[s^2=A(s-1)^2(s+1)+B(s+1)(s-1)+C(s+1)+D(s-1)^3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mukushla is this the only way to solve this partial fraction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

seems like a lot of expansion -.-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i think but u can compute \(D\) and \(C\) before doing that messy multiplication

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for example for \(D\) multiply both sides by \(s+1\) and let \(s=-1\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that allowed?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you ultiply by s+1 on both sides you get \[\frac{s^2}{(s-1)^3}=\frac{C(s+1)}{(s-1)^3}+D\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[D=\frac{1}{-8}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For C \[\frac{s^2}{s+1}=A(s-1)^2+B(s-1)+C+D(s-1)^3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

C=1/2

hartnn (hartnn):

u can find A,B now easily by just putting vakues of s,say s=0,s=2....then soloving simultaneously for A,B....C,D values are correct...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let s=1 \[b=1-\frac{3}{8}=\frac{5}{8}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-A+B=\frac{-3}{8}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[A=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{1}{s-1}+\frac{5}{8}\frac{1}{(s-1)^2}+\frac{1}{2}\frac{1}{(s-1)^3}-\frac{1}{8}\frac{1}{s+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is not the answer they got

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the last two terms are correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think u made a little mistake up there... see this also http://openstudy.com/users/eliassaab#/updates/500c4d0fe4b0549a89302b3c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

her tutorial is vague for a and b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mukushla

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{1}{(i-1)^2(i+1)}=\frac{1}{i^2-2i+1(i+1)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that was for showing cover-up method ... dont let x=i

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know cover up method i've never used it as such though i always thought using it the way you told me to manipulated the answer somehow

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyways \[\frac{s^2}{(s-1)^3(s+1)}=\frac{A}{s-1}+\frac{B}{(s-1)^2}+\frac{\frac{1}{2}}{(s-1)^3}+\frac{\frac{-1}{8}}{(s+1)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let \(s=0\) gives \(-A+B-C+D=0\) or \(B-A=\frac{5}{8}\) let \(s=2\) gives \(A+B+C+\frac{D}{3}=\frac{4}{3}\) or \(A+B=\frac{7}{8}\) it gives \(A=1/8\) and \(B=3/4\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes that's expansion... and it's insane

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's something i don't want to do if it's possible

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how'd you pick 0 and 2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did you just pick two to creat system of equations?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

that's one hell of a fraction !!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i've never seen a partial fraction in which expansion is super long and a cover up method as such. Most books say that cover up isn't allowed with repeated factors

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o well onto the next chapter -.-

OpenStudy (experimentx):

lol ... man i wouldn't even try that without cover up method.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as long as i have this down in two weeks i'll be fine i have like a 95 % and he drops the lowest test so

OpenStudy (experimentx):

honestly use wolf!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's in the book .... lol it's like the 2nd odd problem too.. the first one was like f(t)=sin(t)... and then this....

OpenStudy (experimentx):

differentiating i got http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x+y%27%27+-+y%27+%2B+e^x%281-t-t^2%29+%3D+0

OpenStudy (experimentx):

i guess something went wrong!!

OpenStudy (experimentx):

i guess not the right way Q is asking for.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope that's correct... a=1/8 b=3/4 c=1/2 d=1/8

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