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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Converge or Diverge?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wolfram says it doesn't converge but I dont know why

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I would try the ratio test unfortunately I have to go, so I can't actually try it sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ratio test is inconclusive

OpenStudy (zarkon):

do the divergence test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can you explain what is to me? I don't think I remember it

OpenStudy (zarkon):

what is this limit \[\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{n}{\sqrt{n^2+1}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes....which is not zero....so....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So it diverges?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes

OpenStudy (zarkon):

comparison test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can you explain that one too?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

find a constant that is larger than \(\tan^{-1}(n)\) for all \(n\in\mathbb{N}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well doesn't tan^-1 go to from -infi to infi?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

that is the domain...but the range is bounded

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh yeah from o to pi?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is it bounded from?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

\[-\frac{\pi}{2}<\tan^{-1}(x)<\frac{\pi}{2}\]

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

the top toggles from - to positive so we know the only way it would converge is if the bottom went to zero, but the bottom will grow slower than the top...this is how I look at it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah @zzr0ck3r I know you can do that for MC questions but for free responses I think we need to do the comparison test @Zarkon is talking about

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So what would I do with those things @Zarkon ?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

squeeze thrm

OpenStudy (zarkon):

well for \(n\in\mathbb{N}\) we have \[0<\tan^{-1}(n)<\frac{\pi}{2}\]

OpenStudy (zarkon):

so \[\frac{\tan^{-1}(n)}{n^4}<\frac{\pi/2}{n^4}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Doesnt pi/2/ n^4 converge though?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

-pi/2 <= tan^(-1)(x) <= pi/2 -pi/(2n^4) <= tan^(-1)(x)/n^4<= pi/(2n^4) 0<= tan^-1x <= 0

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes it does

OpenStudy (zarkon):

thus by the comparison test we get...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh so both converge i see

OpenStudy (zarkon):

yes

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

Do you know the squeez theroem? dan?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Would i compare that to something like the harmonic?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

integral test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And could you also explain that.. Sorry I am preparing for a test and I dont remember any of these

OpenStudy (zarkon):

compute \[\int\limits_{2}^{\infty}\frac{1}{x\ln(x)}dx\]

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

it converges iff the integral is finite

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lnlnx

OpenStudy (zarkon):

then evaluate at the limits of integration

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so it goes to infinity so it meants it diverges?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

alternating series test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And what are you supposed to do for that? It is supposed to be decreasing and going to 0?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

alternating...decreasing ... and the limit must be zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do you show that something is decreasing? I know it is but how woudl i show it

OpenStudy (zarkon):

let \(a_n\) be your sequence. then \(a_n\) is (strictly) decreasing if \(a_{n}>a_{n+1}\)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you could also writer \(a_n\) as \(f(n)=a_n\) and show that \(f(x)\) is decreasing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay. thanks for all your help.

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