what is the maximum number of tangents to a triangle?
@TuringTest , @UnkleRhaukus , @phi , @saifoo.khan , @ash2326
|dw:1346864028370:dw|try drawing as many different tangents on this figure as you can
is it 3 ?
What point could you draw to satisfy that?
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I count a whole bunch!
@UnkleRhaukus isnt it 3?
Can't you draw an infinite number through each vertex?
@phi y so?
i count three infinite lines
tangents drawn from the vertices would have no direction the only question I see is if you want to talk about the number of \(different\) tangents, which I do figure to be 3
ya different tangents
you could draw infinite tangents on any line segment technically, but that seems arbitrary
my doubt is why dont we count the tangent at the 3 vertices?
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which way would the tangents at the vertices point?
Do we have to consider that the slope of a tangent at a sharp point is undefined?
i am not sure
a triangle is made with three tangents
OK, by definition a tangent results from a limiting process.... so they do not exist at a vertex... (per wikipedia)
so the answer is 3?
@CliffSedge that is basically how I figured it
If it's tangent to the triangle, then they cannot coincide with the sides of the triangle.
@CliffSedge y so?
Doesn't 'tangent' mean touch at only a single point?
@CliffSedge yes , but the tangent to a straight line is the straight line itself!!!
tangent is nothing but a flat approximation of curve!!
hmmm... looks like there can be several definitions depending on if you're using geometry, calculus, or an even more generalized usage.
i see what i need to knw is this :|dw:1346864494173:dw| can we draw tangent at point A?
I was thinking of it as like a line graph|dw:1346864498741:dw|there is only one unique equation of the tangent line to this graph\[y=mx+b\implies y'=m\]so \(y'=m\) is the only tangent line in the figure of the triangle you get the same effect for each line segment, of which there are three
Here's my reasoning: 1. tangent is defined as touching at only a single point. 2. in calculus, the slope of *the* tangent line at a sharp point is undefined because there is no single/unique tangent line that can be drawn there. Therefore: infinite tangent lines are possible.
@Turing but that's not the tangent line, that is the slope of the tangent line which is the line itself. You can't draw a line tangent to another line because it would touch at more than one point.
More precisely, a straight line is said to be a tangent of a curve y = f(x) at a point x = c on the curve if the line passes through the point (c, f(c)) on the curve and has slope f'(c) where f' is the derivative of f. -Wikipedia that does not require the line to only touch the graph at a single point, the slope just has to match that of the graph at that point
i asked this qn in my lecture and answered it as 3 then one of the srtudents asked if its 6 as in fig: |dw:1346864689277:dw| i couldnt justify it was 3
i told the student i will answer it tmrw dats y i asked
consider|dw:1346864772930:dw|the tangent at point P intersects point Q on the graph, but that does not mean the line is not tangent to the graph at P
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