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OpenStudy (aravindg):

what is the maximum number of tangents to a triangle?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@TuringTest , @UnkleRhaukus , @phi , @saifoo.khan , @ash2326

OpenStudy (turingtest):

|dw:1346864028370:dw|try drawing as many different tangents on this figure as you can

OpenStudy (aravindg):

is it 3 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What point could you draw to satisfy that?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

I count a whole bunch!

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@UnkleRhaukus isnt it 3?

OpenStudy (phi):

Can't you draw an infinite number through each vertex?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@phi y so?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

i count three infinite lines

OpenStudy (turingtest):

tangents drawn from the vertices would have no direction the only question I see is if you want to talk about the number of \(different\) tangents, which I do figure to be 3

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ya different tangents

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you could draw infinite tangents on any line segment technically, but that seems arbitrary

OpenStudy (aravindg):

my doubt is why dont we count the tangent at the 3 vertices?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

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OpenStudy (turingtest):

which way would the tangents at the vertices point?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do we have to consider that the slope of a tangent at a sharp point is undefined?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i am not sure

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

a triangle is made with three tangents

OpenStudy (phi):

OK, by definition a tangent results from a limiting process.... so they do not exist at a vertex... (per wikipedia)

OpenStudy (aravindg):

so the answer is 3?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

@CliffSedge that is basically how I figured it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If it's tangent to the triangle, then they cannot coincide with the sides of the triangle.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@CliffSedge y so?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Doesn't 'tangent' mean touch at only a single point?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@CliffSedge yes , but the tangent to a straight line is the straight line itself!!!

OpenStudy (aravindg):

tangent is nothing but a flat approximation of curve!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm... looks like there can be several definitions depending on if you're using geometry, calculus, or an even more generalized usage.

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i see what i need to knw is this :|dw:1346864494173:dw| can we draw tangent at point A?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I was thinking of it as like a line graph|dw:1346864498741:dw|there is only one unique equation of the tangent line to this graph\[y=mx+b\implies y'=m\]so \(y'=m\) is the only tangent line in the figure of the triangle you get the same effect for each line segment, of which there are three

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here's my reasoning: 1. tangent is defined as touching at only a single point. 2. in calculus, the slope of *the* tangent line at a sharp point is undefined because there is no single/unique tangent line that can be drawn there. Therefore: infinite tangent lines are possible.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Turing but that's not the tangent line, that is the slope of the tangent line which is the line itself. You can't draw a line tangent to another line because it would touch at more than one point.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

More precisely, a straight line is said to be a tangent of a curve y = f(x) at a point x = c on the curve if the line passes through the point (c, f(c)) on the curve and has slope f'(c) where f' is the derivative of f. -Wikipedia that does not require the line to only touch the graph at a single point, the slope just has to match that of the graph at that point

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i asked this qn in my lecture and answered it as 3 then one of the srtudents asked if its 6 as in fig: |dw:1346864689277:dw| i couldnt justify it was 3

OpenStudy (aravindg):

i told the student i will answer it tmrw dats y i asked

OpenStudy (turingtest):

consider|dw:1346864772930:dw|the tangent at point P intersects point Q on the graph, but that does not mean the line is not tangent to the graph at P

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