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OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

Does anyone know how to calculate how many times a ball will bounce if dropped from some height? Information: Restitution = 0.85 Mass = 0.7 kg Drop Height = 10 m Gravity = 9.81 m/s Ground is Horizontal. No air resistance.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

velocity of separation = e (velocity of approach)

OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

A little more explanation please?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

does it make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

why are you subtracting 0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Velocity of approach = V' - zero...which is velocity of ground

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry...Velocity of approach = V - zero...which is velocity of ground

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ball is colliding with the ground..and use this velocity of separation = e (velocity of approach)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

similarly velocity of separation = V'-0

OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

okay. so e is the math constant.. what am i solving for?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 1st calculate V, the velocity of ball from which it hits the ground 1st time..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no...e is the coefficient of restitution...and for ur problem e =0.85(given)

OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

Potential Energy completely becomes Kinetic Energy just before collision \[E_{system}=0+mgh=(0.7)(9.81)(10)=68.67\]\[E_{kinetic}=E_{system}\]\[v_{before}=\sqrt{2E_{kinetic} \over m}=14.01[ms^{-1}]\]\[\mu_r = {E_{kin. after} \over E_{kin.before}}\]\[E_{kin. after}=\mu E_{kin. before}=(0.85)(68.67)=58.67[J]\]\[v_{after}=\sqrt{2E_{kinetic} \over m}=12.91[ms^{-1}]\] I have both the velocities. Before and after the bounce.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but see 4th line in ur solution..

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

The ball will bounce an infinite number of times, but the process will have a finite duration.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

velocity of separation = e (velocity of approach) it does not mean that... Energy after collision =e( energy before collision)?

OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

That's one of the formula we were given.. that restitution is energy after divided by energy before. so i just used that to calculate energy after collision and then the velocity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But the correct formula is for velocity not for energy velocity of separation = e( velocity of approach)

OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

So our professor gave us the wrong equation... awesome.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where are you from?

OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

I'm studying in New Zealand.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyway...u can solve this problem by using correct formula

OpenStudy (phoenixfire):

Wait, what do I do now that I've got the velocity before and after collision? vel approach =14.01 vel separation = 11.91

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes...If u have done correctly... Better use kinematics relation..and use symbols dont plug in the value now..just use h,g and all..then u'll get better understanding of this problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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