find the limit as x approaches 0 for cos(2x) / x
(cosxsinx - tanx)/(x^2 sinx) sinx[cosx - (1/cosx)]/(x^2 sinx) [cosx - (1/cosx)]/x^2 (cos^2x - 1) /x^2 cosx - sin^2 x / x^2 cosx = -[sin(x)/x]^2 / cosx limit x-->0 -[sin(x)/x]^2 / cosx = -(1)^2 / 1 = -1 since we know limit x-->0 sin(x) / x = 1 and cos 0 is 1
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I think there's an easier way to do this . . .
lol
haha. if theres an easier way, please explain.
Well, cosine of whatever ranges between -1 and 1 right?
use sandwich theory..
cos(2x) is varing -1 to 1
and anything between -1 and 1 divided by zero is undefined, so the limit doesn't exist.
i took a mistake no sandwich
I'm going to go eat a sandwich. I'll be back in a couple minutes if you need me.
ugh. trig functions and limits together bug me so much.
use L'hospital theory.
I think L'Hopital's is unreliable here.
why?
Well, it works if you take it far enough, but is more work than is necessary. The reasoning I provided leads to the same conclusion. It's division by zero regardless.
If you only differentiate once, you'll get -2sin(2x)/1 and if you plug in x=0 now you'll mistakenly believe that the limit is zero. If you keep going and differentiate again, you'll get -4cos(2x)/0 which leads to the same conclusion that I made above.
why it is possible.
it can be convetred when the function combined together
I don't know what you mean.
and L'hosipital theory is appliable right before the denominator is not zero
if certain function f(x) when x goes to 0 assume that its value is infinity and g(x) which is denominator goes to 0 but f/g when x goes to zero, it shoul have certain value
I understand the theory, the limit still does not exist because of division by zero.
ah.. . i had mistake
it is not the 0/0 or infinit/0 or ...
I'm saying that it can be solved with a little logic with no need for calculation. Remember this, "if theres an easier way, please explain."
it just ... constant/smalllll value
Yup.
so you are right...
it is just infinity....
No, it is not infinity; it is undefined.
......... constant/really small vaue is infinity.. 1/x is ex
If you approach 0 from the left, the left side limit goes to -∞. Approaching from the right, the right side limit goes to +∞.
Yeah i meant both of two..
okay so if i was going to find the limit as x approaches 0 for sin(3x) / x , would that not exist either?
What if x is a really small negative number? What if x is a really small negative number? Right, so you can't claim that the limit is infinity.
alright. but i meant that infinity means both of + or -
if numerator is sine, then you can use L'hostpital. it is 0/0
That's fine as long as the final answer is "The limit does not exist." The limit for sin(3x)/x does exist.
im confused. if you graph cos(2x) / x, the limit is infinity isnt it?
No, if you graph cos(2x)/x the limit at x=0 is undefined, i.e. it does not exist.
and for sin(3x) / x, it would be 3
Yes.
i understand it when i plug it into a graphing calculator. i just dont understand how to do it algebraically.
LeeYeong's suggestion of L'Hopital's rule is appropriate here.
One way to think of it is to imagine the triangle that represents the sin(x)/x situation. |dw:1347507326332:dw|
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