Given : \(x^2-x-1=0\) then : \(x^8 + \frac{1}{x^8}=?\)
have u tried it yet?
For better visual : \[\large{x^2-x-1=0}\] \[\large{x^8+\frac{1}{x^8}=?}\] Yes mukushla.... I tried 1) put x = \(\frac{1}{x-1}\) but that is too long...
@mukushla @hartnn @sauravshakya @ParthKohli
Cant we find the value of x and substitute it
mentioned above but too long...
Well let me know who can solve this I know the correct soln .... but I will like to know who knows it
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\[x^2-1=x\]\[x-\frac{1}{x}=1\]square both sides 4 time
@allstudentshere : put your answer here
\[x^2 = x +1\]\[x = \sqrt{x + 1}\] \[x^8 = (x + 1)^4\]\[{1 \over x^8} = {1 \over (x + 1)^4}\]Hmm...
:) only answer friends
1st guess made by mukushla is "wrong" sorry
lol 47
Yep 47
But that method was not too long
Solve x^2-x-1=0 u will get |dw:1347789531398:dw|
And substitute it in x^8+1/x^8
\[\large{x^8 + \frac{1}{x^8}}\] \[\large{x^8+\frac{1}{x^8}+2-2}\] \[\large{(x^4+\frac{1}{x^4})^2-2}\] \[\large{[(x^2+\frac{1}{x^2})^2-2]^2}\] like this
Guys: mukushla and saurav have right answers
Oh........ But @mukushla method is much better
i did the same thing, still i got -1....maybe i took, -2 instead of +2 somewhere...
\[\large{[[(x+\frac{1}{x})^2-2]^2-2]^2-2}\] \[\large{\frac{1}{x}=-(\frac{\sqrt{5}+1}{2})}\]
did this...
Again I ask, where did you get +2 and -2 from?
\[\large{x=\frac{-2}{\sqrt{5}+1}}\] \[\large{\textbf{Put this value in the formula we willl get 47 as answer}}\]
No, I don't mean that. Why did you add and subtract 2 and -2 respectively?
Oh k : \[\large{(x+\frac{1}{x})^2 = (x^2+\frac{1}{x^2}+2)}\] hence to make that as look like this... we did subtract 2 and -2 ..
Which formula did you use to complete the square?
x^2-x-1=0 x(x-1-1/x)=0 x-1/x-1=0 x-1/x=1 x^2-2*x*1/x +1/x^2 =1 x^2+1/x^2=3 x^4+1/x^4+2=9 x^4+1/x^4=7 x^8+1/x^8+2=49 x^8+1/x^8=47 @mukushla mentioned this method
\[x^2-x-1=0\] \[x^{16}-kx^8+1=0\] \[x^8=y\] \[y^2-ky+1=0\] \[y=\frac{k \pm \sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}=x^8\]
\[\frac{k \pm \sqrt{k^2-4}}{2}=(\frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1+4}}{2})^8\]
1+4 = 5
@mathslover the answer is 47 right?
Correct saurav sir :)
And u got it?
Yep.... I knew the soln (and answer) but just wanted to know another way
ahh it's so beautiful to see so many lovers of math/s
including you :) --> lgba --> maths lover
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don't ever say that. it disgusts me.
I will like to say again though I care about your feelings.... sorry lgba :'()
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