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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help please! How would I sketch an integral curve for dy/dx = x/y?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is your solution to this differential equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dy/dx=x/y y*dy=x*dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y = x^2/2 ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

@sarahseburn not quite\[\frac{dy}{dx}=\frac xy\]\[ydy=xdx\]\[\int ydy=\int xdx\]careful now, what is the result of integrating both sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=x ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[\int ydy=y~~~???\]I don't think so\[\int ydy=\frac12y^2+C\](btw, in differential equations remembering that constant of integration is \(critical\)) if you are taking DE's you need to be more careful than that, but I am actually messing this up myself, we don't even need to solve the DE to get the integral curves...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[y'=x/y\]|dw:1347825390899:dw|now let's look for some interesting possible values of y' under which conditions will y'=1 for example?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok .. so we dont need to solve for the intergral curve then? i didn't think so .. it's just supposed to be a sketch

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y' =1 when y=x

OpenStudy (turingtest):

right, so we want to know what the derivative will be for each point (x,y) we obviously can't draw them all, so start by looking for some particular cases ...yes y'=1 when y=x, that mean that for all points along the line y=x we have a derivative with a slope of 1

OpenStudy (turingtest):

|dw:1347825699438:dw|to illustrate the derivative at various points we draw little arrows...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

|dw:1347825752061:dw|so that is one integral curve what about another condition; when will y'=0 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y'=0 when x=0 ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

right, so all along the line x=0 (i.e. the y-axis) we will have slope 0....

OpenStudy (turingtest):

|dw:1347825950163:dw|make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kind of yes ... so will the integral curve be a circle?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

curves *

OpenStudy (turingtest):

circle? no where do you see a circle coming from? no let's look at a few more things; what happens to y' as x increases?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

...if y is kept constant that is...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it increases soo .. the curves will just be curving up then right?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

exactly

OpenStudy (turingtest):

let's look along the line y=1 as x increases... at x=2, y'=2 at x=3, y'=3, etc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok.

OpenStudy (turingtest):

|dw:1347826327572:dw|as \(x\to\infty,y'\to\infty\) so the integral curve will curve sharply upward along y=1

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