i need some one to show me step by step how to do this /4c-2/, c= -3 it's Absolute value
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
plug in -3 for c, what do you get?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
let me see :)
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
-14
?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
is that right ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
right, the value of the expression inside the absolute value is -14. But, what does absolute value mean?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
examples of absolute value
|x|=x
|-z|=z
|100|=100
|-345|=345
etc etc etc
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
i'm sorry an you explain more
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Do you know the definition of absolute value?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
i'm sorry i don't
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
:(
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Absolute value is the numerical value of a number without considering the positive or negative sign. So, the absolute value of 10 is 10. The absolute value of -2 is 2. It is just the value of the number. It is always positive.
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o ok so the "-3" is just a 3 and not a "-3 " so the answer would be 14
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You are half right...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Let's back up...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
"-3" is still -3. That doesn't change. The problem says that c = -3. So, c = -3
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
But, the problem says that you have to find /4c-2/ when c = -3
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So, plug in -3 for c just like you did before,
/4(-3)-2/ = /-12-2/ = /-14/
So, when you plug in -3 for c, the expression equals /-14/.
But, the absolute value of -14 is 14.
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o ok thanks man were did you get the ? /-12-/ + /-14? ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Where did I get -12???
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
yeah :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
-12 is the product of 4 and -3
OpenStudy (anonymous):
When you plug in -3 for c, you multiply 4 x -3
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o i see now wow xD thanks man for all of your help
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You're welcome. If you have time, try these to make sure you know how to do absolute values:
Find /4c-2/ when c = 3
Find 4/c/-2 when c = -3
Find 4c - /-2/ when c = -3
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
ok awesome man thanks i will do :)
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hero (hero):
|4c - 2|
Do you know how to use the shift button @teic85?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No, how does that work?
hero (hero):
Hold down the shift button when pressing the \ key
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh I see, I was simply using the same notation as "sup"
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Thanks for pointing that out, though :)
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hero (hero):
Hold down the shift button when trying to post || absolute value symbols
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Like this?
|4c-2|
hero (hero):
Precisely
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Thanks!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Isn't there a keyboard shortcut for superscript too? Might come in handy for exponents
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OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
i am stuck on this one -/-10-z,/z
=-3
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
:(
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
i got 30
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
but i think it is wrong
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok, rewrite the expression after plugging in z = -3
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Also, use |, it's the key above the enter key. You must use the shift key
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
-/10 (-3)/
like that ??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Nope, you are using /. Press shift and \
hero (hero):
lol you're teaching people already @teic85
OpenStudy (anonymous):
And no, the expression is missing a minus
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OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
i no clue what the shift thing is lol xD
OpenStudy (anonymous):
lol yes @Hero, that's the purpose of Open Study right? :D
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
*have
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
xD
hero (hero):
:D
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
haha ok, @Sup_open~study . Let's focus on the problem first.
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
i think i am so post to - it and not x it ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Correct, you have to subtract z not multiply
You wrote -/10 (-3)/
The original expression is -|-10-z|
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Be careful, you also missed the negative in front of the 10
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o i see yeah i was writing it wrong xD
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Rewrite the expression after plugging in -3 for z
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
-/-10-3/ = 13 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
z = -3, but the expression is -10 MINUS z.
So, it should be -10 - (-3) which is actually -10 + 3
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
so it's 7 ??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What is 7?
You are jumping ahead... :)
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OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
sorry xD
OpenStudy (anonymous):
haha it's ok :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
When you plug in -3 for z, you get:
-|-10 - (-3)|
OpenStudy (anonymous):
That look about right to you?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
yeah thanks :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok, so we know that minus -3 is actually +3. So rewrite the entire expression with +3 in that spot
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
ok so it's -|-10 - (3)|
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Not quite,
Minus -3 is +3. So, it is -|-10+3|
OpenStudy (anonymous):
a negative and a negative make a positive
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OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o i see but how would i solve that ??
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok, well now that that pesky z is gone, we can just focus on what is inside the absolute value. What is -10 + 3?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
- 7 so it's just 7 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The absolute value of -7 is 7. Yes.
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o ok i see now but on the answer for the study guide he put -7 why not 7 ??
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
What's in front of the absolute value?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
i can't tell what you are looking for sorry but he had like a -1 -10 + -7 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
This is the expression:
-|-10+3|. What is in front of the absolute value?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
a negative
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Right
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So look at this...
|-7| = 7
What is -|-7| ?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
-7
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Since the negative sign is in front, it makes the expression negative. So -7 is the answer.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
-|-7| is different than |-7|
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o so it's just 7
OpenStudy (anonymous):
No, it isn't just 7.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The expression in your problem has a negative in front like this,
-|-7|
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
So, the absolute value of -7 is 7. But, then you have to add the final negative (the one in front). So, it's -7
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
ok so when you have the - in front of the problem the answer is most likely going to be a - ???
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Don't think "most likely". You'll get the wrong answer. That's just guessing.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Think about this...
what is -2(1 + 3) ?
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
-8
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Right. The negative in front changes it to negative. So, when you have a positive number times a negative number you get a negative.
OpenStudy (sup_open~study):
o i see so when you change the answer to positive the negative will times it and that will make it an negative ?