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OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i need some one to show me step by step how to do this /4c-2/, c= -3 it's Absolute value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

plug in -3 for c, what do you get?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

let me see :)

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

-14 ?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

is that right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right, the value of the expression inside the absolute value is -14. But, what does absolute value mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

examples of absolute value |x|=x |-z|=z |100|=100 |-345|=345 etc etc etc

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i'm sorry an you explain more

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know the definition of absolute value?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i'm sorry i don't

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

:(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Absolute value is the numerical value of a number without considering the positive or negative sign. So, the absolute value of 10 is 10. The absolute value of -2 is 2. It is just the value of the number. It is always positive.

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o ok so the "-3" is just a 3 and not a "-3 " so the answer would be 14

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are half right...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let's back up...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"-3" is still -3. That doesn't change. The problem says that c = -3. So, c = -3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But, the problem says that you have to find /4c-2/ when c = -3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, plug in -3 for c just like you did before, /4(-3)-2/ = /-12-2/ = /-14/ So, when you plug in -3 for c, the expression equals /-14/. But, the absolute value of -14 is 14.

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o ok thanks man were did you get the ? /-12-/ + /-14? ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Where did I get -12???

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

yeah :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-12 is the product of 4 and -3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When you plug in -3 for c, you multiply 4 x -3

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o i see now wow xD thanks man for all of your help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You're welcome. If you have time, try these to make sure you know how to do absolute values: Find /4c-2/ when c = 3 Find 4/c/-2 when c = -3 Find 4c - /-2/ when c = -3

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

ok awesome man thanks i will do :)

hero (hero):

|4c - 2| Do you know how to use the shift button @teic85?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, how does that work?

hero (hero):

Hold down the shift button when pressing the \ key

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I see, I was simply using the same notation as "sup"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks for pointing that out, though :)

hero (hero):

Hold down the shift button when trying to post || absolute value symbols

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like this? |4c-2|

hero (hero):

Precisely

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Isn't there a keyboard shortcut for superscript too? Might come in handy for exponents

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i am stuck on this one -/-10-z,/z =-3

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

:(

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i got 30

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

but i think it is wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, rewrite the expression after plugging in z = -3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Also, use |, it's the key above the enter key. You must use the shift key

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

-/10 (-3)/ like that ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nope, you are using /. Press shift and \

hero (hero):

lol you're teaching people already @teic85

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And no, the expression is missing a minus

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i no clue what the shift thing is lol xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol yes @Hero, that's the purpose of Open Study right? :D

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

*have

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

xD

hero (hero):

:D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha ok, @Sup_open~study . Let's focus on the problem first.

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i think i am so post to - it and not x it ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Correct, you have to subtract z not multiply You wrote -/10 (-3)/ The original expression is -|-10-z|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Be careful, you also missed the negative in front of the 10

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o i see yeah i was writing it wrong xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Rewrite the expression after plugging in -3 for z

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

-/-10-3/ = 13 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

z = -3, but the expression is -10 MINUS z. So, it should be -10 - (-3) which is actually -10 + 3

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

so it's 7 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is 7? You are jumping ahead... :)

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

sorry xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha it's ok :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When you plug in -3 for z, you get: -|-10 - (-3)|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That look about right to you?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

yeah thanks :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, so we know that minus -3 is actually +3. So rewrite the entire expression with +3 in that spot

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

ok so it's -|-10 - (3)|

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not quite, Minus -3 is +3. So, it is -|-10+3|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a negative and a negative make a positive

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o i see but how would i solve that ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, well now that that pesky z is gone, we can just focus on what is inside the absolute value. What is -10 + 3?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

- 7 so it's just 7 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The absolute value of -7 is 7. Yes.

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o ok i see now but on the answer for the study guide he put -7 why not 7 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What's in front of the absolute value?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

i can't tell what you are looking for sorry but he had like a -1 -10 + -7 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is the expression: -|-10+3|. What is in front of the absolute value?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

a negative

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So look at this... |-7| = 7 What is -|-7| ?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

-7

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since the negative sign is in front, it makes the expression negative. So -7 is the answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-|-7| is different than |-7|

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o so it's just 7

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, it isn't just 7.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The expression in your problem has a negative in front like this, -|-7|

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, the absolute value of -7 is 7. But, then you have to add the final negative (the one in front). So, it's -7

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

ok so when you have the - in front of the problem the answer is most likely going to be a - ???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Don't think "most likely". You'll get the wrong answer. That's just guessing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Think about this... what is -2(1 + 3) ?

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

-8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right. The negative in front changes it to negative. So, when you have a positive number times a negative number you get a negative.

OpenStudy (sup_open~study):

o i see so when you change the answer to positive the negative will times it and that will make it an negative ?

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