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OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is difference b/w natural numbers and positive integers?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

they are the same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

SAME THING.

OpenStudy (dape):

The natural numbers includes the number 0 in most definitions.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then why they give different names?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is @dape is correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@dape I never seen such definition of natural numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats what make me confusing

OpenStudy (dape):

You can define it both ways, most common in higher mathematics is to include 0 though (in my experience at least).

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

most definition of the natural numbers i have seen do not include zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hold your horses and give me appropirate answer

OpenStudy (dape):

It doens't matter though, you can define them however you want as long as you specify what you mean by the natural numbers when you use them.

OpenStudy (dape):

I think it's a lot clearer to just say positive integers for the set {1, 2, ...}, since everybody agrees on that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

give me domain of both natural numbers and positive integers

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

The most appropriate answer is that that question is ambiguous, because conflicting definitions for whole numbers are widely used. the answer is either that the the sets are the same and hence the difference is zero or that the sets are different in that the whole numbers inclue the term zero so the difference would be the term zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i got it

OpenStudy (dape):

It's important to remember that many things in math are just names. The definitions of most names used mathematicians agree on, this is a just case where they don't.

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