Find all the answers of the following: (-256)^(1/4)
i can get to \[4\sqrt[8]{-1} \] but don't know where to go from there to get the solutions
so you know that 4*4*4*4=256 and you know again too that i*i=-1 can you continue it ?
I think he already did that. Isn't it just e^(ipi/4)?
how did you convert it to the e format
firstly there is (-256)^(1/4 =((-1)^(1/4))*256^(1/4) true ?
It's deMoivre/Euler formula (but maybe I have to go all the way round the circle, let me check it)
or continued this ((-1)^(1/2))^(1/2 =i^(1/2) - so this is the first part with ,,i"
If you get to\[(i ^{2}4^{4})^{\frac{ 1 }{ 4 }}\] then you would do the part inside the brackets and get it to mod-arg form and then bring the 1/4 in using De Moivre. But I can't convert the inside into mod-arg as I don't know what to do with the i^2
Ignoring the 256, which is just 4, then -1 = cos((2k+1)pi) + isin((2k+1)pi) k = any integer Take the 4th root (-1)^(1/4) = cos((2k+1)pi/4) + isin((2k+1)pi/4) Put k=0,1,2,3
so there are (i^2 *4^4 )^(1/4) so than you can separate these too and will get (i^2)^(1/4) *(4^4)^(1/4) =i^(1/2) *4 ok ?
@estudier : what do you mean the 256 just goes away and it's 4? how did you get to the first line of your answer?
@jiteshmeghwal9 what you have said there in your reply so this sign that a^(1/2) =a^(-2) what is equal 1/a^2 how do you think this is right sure ?
For the 4, I am using the sqrt convention so sqrt 256 is 16 and then sqrt 16 is 4
thanks for the wiki link, but, how do i get the r and theta value from -256 or (i^2)(4^4)
oops! sorry . i forgot about that ;P
If you plot the values k = 0 to 3 (ie cos pi/4 + i sin pi/4, etc) on an Argand diagram, then it is at pi/4 + k*pi/2.... The radius is either 1 or 4 depending you want to consider 1 or 256....
i still have no idea how to convert it to what you're saying because you aren't telling me HOW, you're just telling me the answer
I just use the formula......
\[\sqrt[4]{-256}=+- 4i\]
normally questions like this are given in cartesian form i.e. (1+sqrt(3)i)^4 do from that form you can figure out what the angle is and what the modulus is and then use De moivre to solve. But in this example it's in some weird form where the i is being squared so i don't know what to do so just using formulas isn't helping i need to know how to get from this weird form to a normal cartesian form
answer is 4i and -4i
Where is the i being squared?
sorry i think it is only 4i , got that -4i by mistake
\[\sqrt{-1}=i\] use this
@akash_809 : \[\sqrt[4]{-256} = \sqrt[4]{256} \sqrt[4]{-1}\] it's "quad"-rooted not square rooted
yes thats what i have done 4^4 =256 isn't it
4rt (-256) = 4rt (256) 4rt(-1) = 4 4rt(-1) and then use the formula...
@remnant , 4 is fourth root of 256
@estudier what is rt
rt is root
yes 4th root of 256 is 4 but 4th root of -1 is not i
I am just typing it as 4th root. akash, we have the solution already, we are just explaining it now....
@remnant , roots of negative numbers is not defined and it's imaginary represemted by i and thats what iota means i=sqrt(-1) ...
@akash_809 please read the thread before you post any more....
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@estudier i failed to spot the answer in the messages above so gave the answer
@akash_809 Yes, the wrong answer.....
lol
ok... @estudier is the answer something other 4i...i think it should only be 4i..if i m wrong pls correct me
btw hope the picture is clear, it makes everything work in one snap step
\[ \large \left( -1\right)^{1 \over 4} = e^{i{{ \pi +2n \pi \over 4 }}} \text{ where n=0,1,2,3}\]
@experimentX right, that's the Euler half of the puzzle
forget the 256, find -1 on the unit circle, take 1/4 of the angle and then divide the unit circle into 4 parts, multiply your results by 4
cmon thats the general answer you are giving when cosx= -1 , then we say it as pi or 2n+1 pi...choice is yours...but saying x=pi won't be wrong
@satellite73 been there, done that, its up above....:-)
yes, i see, i was just adding the visual.
i think giving the answer in euler's form is just complicating it...we could simply say its 4i, but then again individulas choice, as i said for cos x=-1
this would be a equally spaced multiple roots ... see the occurrence|dw:1348316014585:dw| of roots
@satellite73 and I would give you a medal if I still could....:-)
lol ... i would too
since when is \((4i)^4=-256\)? thanks i have lots it seems still can't redeem them for valuable merchandise though
@satellite73 bragging :)
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