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hartnn (hartnn):

inverse of mod function? like y= x mod p, 1=5 mod 2 how do i get 5 from {1,2}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

doesnot exist as inverse only possible for one-one function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y=|x| ? inverse of this will not be a function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

inverse exist x=|y| but its not a function

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

mod is not 1-1 function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

modulus is a many-one function hence it's inverse not possible

hartnn (hartnn):

c= a mod b = -> corresponds to

OpenStudy (anonymous):

NO PROBLEMAS SENIOUR @hartnn ! Let B be the set of ordered pairs of pairs-of-numbers, in other words pairs of points in the plane: \[ b \in B \,\,\iff b=(P_1, P_2) \] then the inverse function of \[Abs^{-1}(y) = ((y,y),(y,-y)) \] and a medal , naturally. forgive my humbleness...

hartnn (hartnn):

whats and how ? \(Abs^{-1}(y) = ((y,y),(y,-y))\)

hartnn (hartnn):

if i have y=x mod 7, how would i find its inverse ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The Abs is of course |x| not the algebraic coincidence of names.

hartnn (hartnn):

i eas talking about remainder

hartnn (hartnn):

like 5 mod 2 is 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if modulus is with only number then it is one-one and inverse will exist

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x = sgn(x) .|x|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Anyway also for remainder possible to invert \[ mod:\,r_{Ideal} \rightarrow r \\ mod^{-1}: r \rightarrow r_{Ideal}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and a , the action that should not be asked but anyway received :)

hartnn (hartnn):

but i didn't understand....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thx oh exalted one !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Learn about Ideals even if you dont have them :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_(ring_theory)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

MEdals, Medals gentleman for the wondering scholar ....! Keep them falling !

hartnn (hartnn):

hmmm...didn't study ideals, i'll go through them, thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Everybody that did - pls gratify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think the question is maybe something different, are you asking how do you solve \[x\equiv y (mod n)\] for \(y\) if you know \(x\) ?

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, i wrote somewhere in between = -> correcponds to

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If that was the question I would not solve it - but it was not!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for example solve \( 5\equiv x\text{ mod } 3\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No uniqueness - only an IDEAL OF ANSWERS

hartnn (hartnn):

there are many (or infinite ?) values of x in 5=x mod 3 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes - they form an IDEAL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ideals live in arbitrary rings, and are not necessary for understanding elementary number theory

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Anyway the set pf answers here IS an Ideal.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

By the way the only proper way to make equivalence necessary for "REMAINDER CALCULUS" is bu using ideals. Elementary - well yes.

hartnn (hartnn):

ok, thank you @Mikael i'll go through IDEALS and ask u if i have any doubts. thanks to @satellite73 also :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Firstly is the "cyclical group". It will give you the applications. Only then that. This takes you further

hartnn (hartnn):

any good reference for such things(other than wikipedia) where these things are explained in lucid manner ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 mathdl.maa.org/images/upload_library/22/Polya/Brenton.pdf en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_group_theory math.uc.edu/~hodgestj/Abstract%20Algebra/GroupTheory512.pdf www.rowan.edu/.../Some%20Elementary%20Group%20Theory.pdf

hartnn (hartnn):

because of those ... i cannot get the reference

hartnn (hartnn):

only last one i couldn't get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just ggle "elementary remainder group theory"

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