Question

What is meant by the OS Code of Conduct admonishment to "guide" an asker to a solution? This is being interpreted in at least two ways. One interpretation is that the Asker must be engaged to some extent in a dialogue about the creation of a solution to the problem the Asker posts. A second interpretation is that the Answerer's reply to the Asker's posted question is sufficient to meet the "guide" criterion if the Answerer writes a solution to the asked problem and posts it without input from the Asker. So, how is "guide" to be interpreted? I will post examples for your consideration.

Answer 1

Guide means posted solution with no engagement of Asker in the solution:

I need help solving this equation. 6r^2+11r=10. My answers are r+and- i5/2 squared and r+and- 2/3 squared...I am wrong apparently.
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On this problem you need to rearrange 6r^2+11r=10 to be 6r^2+11r-10=0 Then use the quadratic formula to solve. \[-b \pm \sqrt{b ^{2}-4ac}\div2a\] Which then gives: \[-11\pm \sqrt{11^{2}-4(6)(-10)}\div2(6)\] So r=2/3, -5/2 Plug those values back in to the original equation for r and you'll see the solution works out.
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OpenStudy values the Learning process - not the ‘Give you an answer’ process •Don’t post only answers - guide the asker to a solution. http://openstudy.com/code-of-conduct
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I did guide the asker to a solution!

Answer 2

If you want to see the above in context, see the following link:
http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/506617b1e4b08d1852122a6e

Answer 3

What follows is a second interpretation of "guide" with the engagement of the student.

A picture frame is shaped as a heptagon. The measure of one angle is 144 The remaining interior angles are congruent. What is the measure of each remaining interior angles in the picture frame?
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How many sides does a heptagon have?
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Seven if i'm corrct
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You are correct. Now, we need to know the sum of the interior angles of the heptagon. Do you know the formula? It's okay if you don't; it's okay if you do.
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well the only formula i'm aware of is (n-2)x 180
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That's it. So, where n is the number of sides, the sum of all the interior angles is (7-2)*180 which is --> your turn to crank out the sum.
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900
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here is where im lost hehe xD
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Great. So, we'll subtract that 144 angle from 900 and get 900- 144 = 756 degrees for the other six interior angles to share equally. That is because they are congruent and congruent angles have the same measure.
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Any idea of what we should do to the 756 to get the measure of each of the remaining congruent angles. Your turn now.
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would i have to divide by the number of sides?
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No. The number of sides gives the number of interior angles. But one of those seven interior angles had a measure of 144. We subtracted it from the total of all seven interior angles. Now, there are six angles left with a sum of 756. Remember that all six of those remaining angles have the same measure. Does that make sense?
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So, we'll divide 756 by what number? Your Turn
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i got nothing , im sorry
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No worries. Divide 756 by 6 and post what you get.
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126 is the outcome, but why is it specifically divided by 6?
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oh because there are 6 remaining right?
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144 + 126*6 = 900 which is the sum of the interior angles of the septagon. Yes, there are six congruent angles remaining after the 144 angle is subtracted.
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thank you so much ^_^ i appreciate your help a lot !!!
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Glad to help. I like Geometry.

Answer 4

I can see how guide can be interpreted in two ways by reading the previous two posts. The questions to TPTG (the powers that be) is how are the OS Answerers to interpret "guide" as in guiding students to a solution?

There seems to be no confusion regarding the "Don’t post only answers" because OpenStudy values the Learning process - not the ‘Give you an answer’ process •Don’t post only answers - guide the asker to a solution.

Answer 5

Question for the Purple People and all OS administrators and members who would like to response.

Answer 6

i dont have a problem with jonnymiller's response

Answer 7

Second Clarification Requested:

If an Asker requests or implies a request for confirmation of an answer, is the Answerer expected by TPTB to provide more than a confirmaton or denial?

A scenario illustrating this follows:
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Use synthetic division to find P(–2) for P(x) = x4 + 9x3 - 9x + 2 . A. –2 B. 0 C. –36 D. 68 answer is C -36
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yup, thats correct.
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thank you
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welcome ^_^

Answer 8

^^ that was my answer

Answer 9

@UnkleRhaukus I tend to agree with you. However, the moderators (I assume) are the OS members who issue warnings to Answerers whose replies do not measure up to whatever is meant by guiding the student to a solution. After x number of warnings, the Answerer is bounced from the site. Also, after each warning, an e-mail copy of that warning is sent to the Answerer. However, the offending reply to the question for which the Answerer is being chastised is not cited.

If the author(s) of the OS Code of Conduct would clarify what "guide" means, this would clear the confusion.

Answer 10

have only been issued one warning ,
and i still dont know which response of my mine warranted it,

Answer 11

Is that a tutorial

Answer 12

@Directrix When dealing with human issues; that is, the nature of how people learn, it would be a mistake to try to so rigorously define the foundations of what a "guide" is.

The best response I can give is that when asked to "guide" an asker to the solution, do whatever you deem intuitively to be most instrumental to helping him/her learn.

So, with me, it's unnecessary to explain every step. Give a hint, and I'm gold.

Others might find it difficult to understand why fractions can cancel. They might need an actual, literal guide.

Answer 13

Or, in other words, instead of giving a concrete guideline of what structure a guide might follow, instead consider a guide to be the most instrumental response you can give to helping an asker come to an understanding.

So if it's immediately apparent that I have already answered the question myself, but have made a mistake in the process, a step by step solution would be better than hand-holding explanations.

But if I don't know where to start... well, the issue is now about whether I understand the fundamental issues of the field.

Answer 14

wow what a lot of rules.
my idea would be to relax and not worry
math is hard enough as it is

Answer 15

@badreferences Here's the sticking point. What is meant by guiding an Asker to a solution is not left for your or my discretion. Someone else (a moderator?) makes the decision to issue a warning and a compilation of such warnings has consequences. Therefore, Answerers should know what the author(s) of the OS Code of Conduct mean by "guiding to a solution." A definition would be sufficient. I

Answer 16

haha agreed with @satellite73 math is hard so u gotta relax lol :) i mean everybody has differnt ways of understanding so yeah as long as u learn it right?

Answer 17

Language is vague enough that reasonable intuition must be exercised at every step. We have generally the same tolerances to stupidity that the mods do. So I think with a margin of error we can prevent most sorts of unreasonable punishments.

Answer 18

That is, I can post a benign joke, and even though it isn't a guide, I won't be warned for it.

Answer 19

"A boy owned a dog that was uncommonly shaggy. Many people remarked upon its considerable shagginess. When the boy learned that there are contests for shaggy dogs, he entered his dog. The dog won first prize for shagginess in both the local and the regional competitions. The boy entered the dog in ever-larger contests, until finally he entered it in the world championship for shaggy dogs. When the judges had inspected all of the competing dogs, they remarked about the boy's dog: 'He's not so shaggy.'"

Answer 20

Sherpa

Answer 21

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherpa_language

Yes.