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OpenStudy (anonymous):

sigma notation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Evaluate this: \[ \sum_{i=8}^{29}i^2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the sum of first n square numbers is equal to : n(n+1)(2n+1)/6 does this help ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes but how about on i = 8 that formula is for i=1

OpenStudy (phi):

you could figure out the sum from 1 to 29 and figure out the sum from 1 to 7 and subtract the two sums

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.. so in fact you can subtract two sums .. can you think about it ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i do like this \[\sum_{i=1}^{22}i^2 \] =22(22+1)(2(22+1) =(22(23) (2(22+1))/6 =(22(23)(45))/6 =3795

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no you calculated the sum of the first 22 numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

read what phi wrote .. he said what you should do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes phi i figure it out from 1 -29 but...that i=8 solution....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

8415

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and figure out 1-7? can u explain pls

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.. that's good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you want the sum : 8^2+9^2+....+29^2 now if you calculate the sum of 29 first numbers you get 1^2 + 2^2+... + 29^2 but you only need 8 to 29 so you have to subtract the first 7 numbers

OpenStudy (phi):

you can think like this: sum(1 to 29) = sum(1 to 7) + sum(8 to 29)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ow i need to subract the 1st 7 number ok nice w8 w8 i do that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how to subract the 1st 7 number i mean where do i put it? sum(1 to 7)= 140

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now calculate the first 29 elements sum and subtract the 1 to 7 from it ..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 to 7 = 140 8 to 29 = 8415 if i total it 1to 29= 8555 cool i need a shortcut solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if u subtract it i will get 8415

OpenStudy (phi):

the shortest thing you can do is figure out \[ \sum_{i=1}^{29}i^2 = 8555 \] and then 8555-140= 8415

OpenStudy (phi):

why are you using 22 and not 29?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no no is that from the other question... if i= 1 i can easyly create a solution

OpenStudy (phi):

if you are asking about \[ \sum_{i=8}^{29}i^2 \] you do it by noticing that \[ \sum_{i=1}^{7}i^2 + \sum_{i=8}^{29}i^2 = \sum_{i=1}^{29}i^2 \] and \[\sum_{i=8}^{29}i^2 = \sum_{i=1}^{29}i^2 - \sum_{i=1}^{7}i^2 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u got it! thanks u phi thats the formula my prof i did not write

OpenStudy (phi):

does the first line make sense? remember that \[ \sum_{i=1}^{7}i^2 \] is short for \[ 1^2 +2^2 + ...+7^2\] if we wrote \[ \sum_{i=1}^{7}i^2 + \sum_{i=8}^{9}i^2 \] that would be the same as \[ 1^2 +2^2 + ...+7^2 +8^2 + 9^2\] or simply \[ \sum_{i=1}^{9}i^2 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup i got it phi

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