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OpenStudy (anonymous):

MORE URGENT What is the simplified form of the expression? http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh639/zigzagoon20001/Equation_zpsd593ffb9.jpg A. http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh639/zigzagoon20001/A_zps270408ca.jpg B. http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh639/zigzagoon20001/B_zps8ce036fb.jpg C. http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh639/zigzagoon20001/C_zpsacb1dea7.jpg D. http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/hh639/zigzagoon20001/D_zps1ff35b19.jpg A, B, C, or D? Please explain (:

OpenStudy (farmdawgnation):

@zigzagoon2000 Do not, under any circumstances, close and repost a question to bypass our bump limits. Thanks.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Will do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help anyone?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hi zigzagzoon. let me take a look at your problem first.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey. alright.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok got it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now this problem is about using laws of exponents.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in this case, the x and the y serve as bases of the exponents. you want to consider like bases and add their exponents.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, for instance, lets say we had 2^3 times 2^5, then that equals 2^8. do you see this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then it would 16

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in this case, 2 served as the base, but the principal is the same.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait... dang it hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

512, yes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait... i may have confused the issue for u. the 2^8 was an example, not the answer to your particular problem. ok?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now you have two numbers in the given product. it is perfectly legal to multiply them and put them out front.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so far so good?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

confused at this point tbh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, then lets back up. tell me where you need to start. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

still there zigzag?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i need to start at the very beginning.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

perfect. then that is where we start. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets take a different tack.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let us start by reorganizing the product using the commutative property for multiplication. lets get the numbers and x's next to eachother so we can work on them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, using the commutative property, we can rewrite the given product as 5 times 2 times x^8 timesx^5 times y^10.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is there any question about what i just did? i rearranged terms using the commutative property of multiplication (since this is a string of products, we can do that)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now stay with me... we're gonna getcha through this. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, i'm still here, hold on a sec lemme see what i'm looking at

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:) understood

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"5 times 2 times x^8 timesx^5 times y^10" how do i do THIS haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do x and y equal?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is an expression, not an equation. nothing to solve and no substitutions are instructed (like substitute 3 for x and 2 for y). this is about the laws of exponents using variable bases.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am gonna walk you through this. ok?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first, multiply the 2 and the 5 and put their product out front. In these product problems, first multiply numbers with numbers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright, so.. 5 * 2 = 10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then we will tackle the product of x^8 and x^5 because here we will use the law of exponents for like bases.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when you have like bases, whether numbers or variables, you can add their exponents.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so that means x^5 times x^8=?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

notice that i am breaking the problem up for instructional purposes, but bear in mind that as we condense terms, the expression remains a product of these condensed terms.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are awfully quiet zigzagzoon. :) talk to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright, so you're saying x = 3, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

bear with me haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, i am saying that x has no given value, and neither does y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what matters here, confusing as it is, is the ability to multiply terms with exponents and like bases

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright so 5 * 8 = 40, not sure where to put the x's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you add the exponents, so that x^5 times x^8=x^13

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm confused on how to add the exponents

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now you have 10(x^13)(y^10)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ugh... i think i somewhat get it, but don't hold me to that lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. in the given expression, 2^3 times 2^5, 2 is the base and 3 and 5 are the exponents. so to get this product, since the product is of exponents with the same base, we can add their exponents to get 2^8. this is just mathematical shorthand for saying (2 *2*2*2*2)*(2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2)=count the 2's and you get the exponent. in this case x^5 has a base of x and an exponent of 5. it is the same as saying x*x*x*x*x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mkay, well thank you :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are still having trouble arent you?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a little bit, but i got that last part you said: "this is just mathematical shorthand for saying (2 *2*2*2*2)*(2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2)=count the 2's and you get the exponent. in this case x^5 has a base of x and an exponent of 5. it is the same as saying x*x*x*x*x" so i kinda understand i guess

OpenStudy (anonymous):

god i hate math haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right so lets take a look at an example that is simpler. bear with me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let's look at the product of x^2 and x^3.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright bear with me as well, i just wanna make sure i get this right. um, where do i start off on this one? what is the first thing i do?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

start with the product of the numbers 2 and 5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do i do with those numbers?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

put the 10 out in front. numbers go first in variable expressions because it is good form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we are back to your problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are still thinking that the variable have to have a value attached somehow

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, x^2, x^3. somehow i got 10, how is that? where did the product of the numbers come from?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh. it is not the product of the exponents. it is the sum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ADD 2 and 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is the sum? but where did 5 and 2 come from, when the question was x^2, x^3??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

trust me, i feel really stupid right now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i suck at math

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, it came from your original problem and i stupidly re addressed that for clarification. sorry, i had a duh moment here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright, so back to x^2, x^3. and it's all good haha, you're helping ME lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for the product of x^2 and x^3, the answer is x^5.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

notic i added the exponents

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes because 2 + 3 is 5, so it would become x^5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i noticed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. as long as the base is the same, in this case, x, you can add the exponents.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the exponents are the numbers right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. they are the numbers. now, do you see how this applies in your original product?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are getting there. be kind to yourself and you will get it faster :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you, and i kinda but i mean the original was variables to certain powers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right, so add the exponents of the like bases

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ugh, i need a cigarette, hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, for the original problem. 1) regroup the string of products. put numbers with numbers and like bases with like bases like this: (2x5)(x^5timesx^8)y^10.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2) carry out the multiplication of the the numbers to get 10.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hold on, please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3) add the exponents of like bases.. in this case, the like bases are x to get x^(5+8)=x^13

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am holding :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first off, the bases are the variables? you're confusing me lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in this problem, yes, the x in x^5 and x^8 are the bases. variables can be bases. what is confusing you is that this not a problem about doing math, this is a problem concerning mathematical notation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah.. math confuses me lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is why the variables are not given values. this is all about notation of bases and exponents.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay lemme try. gimme a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okeedokee. i am all for it. fire away...:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, original problem: x^8 * 2y^10 * 5x^5 You said to regroup the string of products. Then you said: "put numbers with numbers and like bases with like bases". Can you reword that for my stupid a-s-s, if possible to make it more simple for me, cause this is like my first time doing math like this or anything like it, algebra, geometry, graphs, etc. Even fractions. Have not done them ever, dropped out, started doing online schooling and got my answers online from other people like yourself. *sighs* So yeah. Please bear with me, and also um..reword it..please? Sorry if I said "please" or "sorry" too much. *sighs again*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no problem. i can tell you are frustrated.

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