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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Vectors determine the tension in each cable supporting the load

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you given any other values?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Remember that the horizontal components are equal and the vertical components add up to gravitational force.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So \[A\cos(50)=B\cos(30)\]\[A\sin(50)+B\sin(30)=F_{gravity}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Who equations, two unknown variables.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A and B are the tensions on A and B respectively.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ifrah34 Still need help?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the answer are Tac=1758.8 and Tbc=1305.4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First of all, the answer needs to be force.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the vertical and horizontal components are not used for this problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes they are!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried it your way, I don't have the right answers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, well hold on and let me check.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Did you use degree mode?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is mass in grams?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or kg

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ifrah34 The problem is that you didn't solve the system correctly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mg is F gravity right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, well in the engineering system, lbs is force, not mass.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Mass is measured in slugs.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my teacher used a shortcut

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How hard it is the solve a system of equations?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you going to admit that I wasn't wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you use law of sine?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

who is supposed to do that... @ifrah34 are you doing engineering?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ifrah34 said my way doesn't get him the right answers, but it does get the right answers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ur way is right, but its long

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can't you use law of sine to solve for it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Look you can make it shorter if you want my getting a general formula.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[A\cos(\alpha)=B\cos(\beta)\]\[A=B\frac{\cos(\beta)}{\cos(\alpha)}\]So:\[B\frac{\cos(\beta)}{\cos(\alpha)}\sin(\alpha)+B\sin(\beta)=F\]\[B(\tan(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\sin(\beta)) = F\]\[B=\frac{F}{\tan(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\sin(\beta)}\]\[B=\frac{F\cos(\alpha)}{\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\sin(\beta)\cos(\alpha)}\]And then:\[A=B \frac{\cos(\beta)}{\cos(\alpha)}\]\[A=\frac{F\cos(\alpha)}{\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\sin(\beta)\cos(\alpha)}\cdot \frac{\cos(\beta)}{\cos(\alpha)}\]\[A=\frac{F\cos(\beta)}{\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\sin(\beta)\cos(\alpha)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks wio

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then using trig identities:\[A=\frac{F\cos(\beta)}{\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+sin(\beta)\cos(\alpha)} =\frac{F\cos(\beta)}{\sin(\alpha+\beta)}\]\[B=\frac{F\cos(\alpha)}{\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+sin(\beta)\cos(\alpha)} =\frac{F\cos(\alpha)}{\sin(\alpha+\beta)}\]Oops I meant this, before was mistake.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ifrah34 I made little mistake.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its ok, I rather do it the long way, less complications

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's fixed now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Try that! It works. But it only works for this particular type of problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you were to solve it a trig way, would you approach it differently?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Umm, I'm using trig already

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nevermind

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