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OpenStudy (anonymous):

help me out plz...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[1+ 1/5+4/5^{2}+9/5^{3}+......\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ n^2 }{ 5^n }\] ? what's your question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

summation till infinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know summation notation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[1+\sum_{1}^{\inf} n^{2}/5^{n}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Algebraic! I'm terrible with Summation, can you take it from here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the n^2 part is easy the other part is a geometric series use the sum of products is product of sums, I believe ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dint get you???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sum_{i=0}^{n} i ^{2} =\frac{ n(n+1)(2n+1) }{6 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know that, but how are you going to apply it here??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sum_{i=0}^{n} r^{i} =\frac{1 }{1-r }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you suggesting that we should multiply these two ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can't multiply series like that!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not sure... that doesn't seem to give much of an answer...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

need two different indices...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

such a weird summation, and i used a calculator and gave up once i reached n=21

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyways i got the solution. thank you guys...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you just needed an approximation??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope.. exact answer. it turned out to be 75/32

OpenStudy (anonymous):

share your insights...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

don't think that's right anyway.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first 6 terms are 1.4625

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think my answer is wrong. but this procedure, I think is good.. say x=1/5. and the summation is \[S=x^{1}+4x^{2}+9x^{3}+....\] lets add the 1 later \[Sx=x^{2}+4x^{3}+9x^{4}+..\] \[S(1-x)=x^{1}+3x^{2}+5x^{3}+..\] \[Sx(1-x)=x^{2}+3x^{3}+5x^{4}+..\] \[S(1-x)-Sx(1-x)=x^{1}+2x^{2}+2x^{3}+..\] \[S(1-x)^2=x^{1}+2x^{2}[1+x+x^{2}..]\] i think you can take it from here...... all we have to do is to find S+1...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

should be 1 + 2/(ln5)^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1.46875, im going with this answer screwed up my program the first time...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not sure how exactly...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

get one of the math guys in here lol...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

never fear @hartnn is here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the expression n^2/5^n converges meaning the fraction becomes smaller and smaller i really doubt that the summation will ever be larger than .5, mainly cause i wrote a program and ran it till n=144 and it seems to stop at .46875 or in fraction form 15/32 now the question is how do you go about getting that fraction without writing a program to calculate, that i have no idea

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"the fraction getting smaller and smaller" is not the same thing as convergence. sum 1/n and sum 1/n^2 both have terms going to 0, but first sum goes to infinity and second to a Pi^2/6,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think this might work. F(x) = Sum(n^2 * x^n). F/x = 1/x + 1 + 4x + 9x^2 ... Int(F/x) = c+ ln(x) + x + 2x^2 + 3x^3 ... Int(F/x)/x = c/x + ln(x)/x + 1 + 2x + 3x^2 Int( Int(F/x)/x ) = d + c ln(x) + int (ln /x) + x + x^2 + x^3 ... = d + c ln(x) + int (ln /x) + (1/(1-x) - 1) geometric series Then you reverse those steps and take derivatives and multiply through by x. and you get and expression for the sum then plug in x = 1/5

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