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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Infinite limits question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that the question

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

BRING IT OOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ \sqrt{9x^6-x} }{ x^3+1 }\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

x ->-1

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i tried multiplying the top and bottom by x^-6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x->inf

OpenStudy (anonymous):

square the top and bottom

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

well you can't do that lol

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Sorry but if you could square the top and bottom on this one, you might as well just change it to 1/x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can't you do that to cancel the square root Well there is that too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get a zero on the bottom if i multiply by x^-6

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

No I was joking, you can't do that.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

you could multiply top and bottom by sqrt(9x^6-x)

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

that would get rid of the square on top and leave you with one on the bottom

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

can you post the answer? I just want to see if I did it right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

yea I did do it right.. but I can't really explain it lol and the teacher would not really accept my explanation.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

But here's my attempt at explanation: sqrt(9x^6 - x)/(x^3+1), basically you would wanna know what approaches infinity faster, top or bottom?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well if the bottom is faster it will be zero

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

And how would you see that? By "taking the square root", if you rewrote this as: sqrt(9) sqrt(x^6-x)/(x^3+1)

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

so you have 3 * sqrt(x^6-x)/(x^3+1)

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

If you "took" the square root, the highest power on top would be 3, sqrt(x^6) = x^3, and the highest power on the bottom is 3 as well, so basically this would mean that both top and bottom are approaching infinity at the same rate.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

still make it a zero wouldnt it?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

No, when two things go to infinity at the same rate, they cancel each other and become 1

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

for example, lim x-> inf (x^3/x^3) = lim x->inf (1) = 1

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

So since the fraction part cancels each other out (it becomes 1), the only thing that remains is sqrt(9), or 3.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i somehow factor out an x out of the top and bottom?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

You could use the L'Hopital's Rule on this, but it would get messy.

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Okay let's do it the long way.. First get top and bottom under a common square root.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ \sqrt{x}\sqrt{9x^5-1} }{ x(x^2+\frac{ 1 }{ x }) }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that possible?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

yea but you're making it harder.. here: So: \[\frac{\sqrt{9x^6-x}}{x^3+1}\] = \[\sqrt{\frac{9x^6-x}{(x^3+1)^2}}\] makes sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya, whyd the bottom get squared?

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Because now the highest power on the bottom is 6 as well: \[\sqrt{\frac{9x^6-x}{x^6+2x^3+1}}\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Now you can pull out the square root to the outside of the limit.. Sorry this may take a while to type out, not that good at latex.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{\frac{ 9x^6-x }{ x^6+2x^3+1 }}\frac{ x^{-6} }{ x^{-6} }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can i do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{\frac{ 9-0 }{ 1+0+0 }}\]

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

yea

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

lol you found a shorter way, GOOD JOB!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so, the only thing im having trouble with is the part where you put it all ubder a square root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and squared it

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

well the bottom did not have a square root right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

\[*le \space expression* = \sqrt{(*le \space expression*)^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahhh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, i will remember that

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

Please do :D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks bah!

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

2 = sqrt(2^2) = sqrt(4) = 2

OpenStudy (bahrom7893):

np cal!

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