Find the equation of the tangent line to the curve at the given point. y=1+2x−x3, (1,2)
so darkmare, are you there?
yes i am
so is this a calc marathon for u?:)
lets start with the derivative of a sum is the sum of the derivatives.
yup lol working on a bunch of hw problems trying to get them all figured out by tom, and it appears many of them are stumping me..... >.>
so do you have y'?
oh and apparently my typing skills arent so hot tonight either. the last term is x^3 not x3
ok. what is the derivative of 1 wrt x?
y' = 2-3x^2 correct?
you are batting a thousand! nice
how is y' related to the equation of the tangent line?
that would be equal to the slope of the line would it not?
it would! good again
oh! so my line would be y=-x+3 yes?
i was trying to find my slope by finding another coordinate... I didnt think to use y', which should have been my first thought being every question i'm dealing with is dealing with derivatives...
:). incidentally, the equation for your line is absolutely correct. :)
yay! lol i'm starting to understand this crazy calculus stuff..... kinda :P
you are doing fine.
k another question for you, the same deal i've got a function and a point and i'm looking for the line. How do i start off finding my derivative when the function is y= (2x)/((x+1)^2)
do I use chain rule on the bottom then quotient rule on the whole thing?
which do you like better, the quotient rule or the product rule?
deffinetly prefer the product rule
cuz you can rewrite that as y=2x(x+1)^-2
right then it would be a straight product rule
yes. cuz the stuff inside the parentheses has a derivative of 1. do you see that?
so no chain rule here :)
so then the derivative of (x+1)^-2 would be -2?
not quite. what is derivative of x^-2?
-2x^-3?
you bet. so the derivative of (x+1)^-2=?
-2(x+1)^-3?
yes!
so with my product rule then I get (2)(x+1)^-2 + (2x)(-2(x+1)^-3) Is that right so far?
yes... ! just clean up that last term and you are set. :)
how do I clean it up? i'm a little unsure of where to go from this step
in that term you have 2x times -2
so the second term is -4x(x+1)^-3. do you see that?
ya i can see that now that you pointed it out
it is just a matter of practice.. you will be fine.
does that mean my slope for my tangent line is 2(x+1)^-2 -4x(x+1)^-3?
I guess I was expecting my slope to be a whole number or fraction, so that's where i'm a little bit confused
are you given a point on the graph?
yes (0,0)
so what is y' at (0,0)?
2?
looks good to me :))
oh! lol wow I feel blonde, To find my slope I need to get my derivative and then plug in the x value of the point they give me
you look like you are starting to get it. :) that is exactly what i was going to write you. however, you came up with the correct solution strategy... :)
you should not feel blonde. you are doing fine.
Thank you soo much for your help! its clearing a lot of the fog in my head
glad to be of service. now, just out of curiosity...
is a darkmare worse or better than a nightmare?
:)
much much better :)
i bet. i hope you have a lovely evening (nite). you have this. do some more problems and you will nail this stuff :))
take care darkmare. :)
Thank you for all your help! :)
my pleasure... :)) nite
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