3 college friends brought their families for a reunion. John brought his wife, daughter and son, William brought his wife and son, and Jason brought his wife and daughter. Suppose they sat on a circular table randomly, what is the probability that the three friends will be sat next to one another?
4 + 3 + 3 = 10
that doesn't sound like a probability....
is answer 7!/10!
no idea
no answer for this?
no...im not an answering machine to be able to answer everything...
Lack of explanation ruins the solution process.
i would like to confirm answer before posting solution process. answer is pretty weird.
i would assume the denominator would be 9!
both numerator and denominator has the circular symmetry of order 10, so both 10 would be dividing numerator and denominator ... and there isn't difference. that's my guess
...that's impossible...
my guess would be (3!3!)/9!
i see .. where i made mistake
wait.... i do too... is it 3!/9!
my new guess would be 3!7!/10!
why 10! as denominator?
shouldn't it be 9! because (10-1)! = 9!
isn't there 10 people sitting on round table?
yes
circular permutation states that when there are n seats, the total ways of rearranging the n seats would be (n-1)!
so total perpumations will be 10! since we consider circular symmetry, we should diving it by 10 ... since only 1 out of 10 is unique.
new sample space is 10!/10 now consider numerator.
....something soundss wrong there....
3 friends + 7 children and wives = 31 7!
why consider the arrangement of the 7 other people?
3 friends sitting together, you will have 3!7! permutations
since the only concern is the number of ways the friends can sit together...shouldn't it just be 3!
why not ... they are also included in sample space.
...do you consider the other things included in the sample space when doing probabilities?
isn't it just possible way of achieving something over total ways
yes ... as long as they satisfies condition.
I think: \[\frac{ 3! 7! }{ 9! }\]
isn't it obvious 3!/9! <--- how small is this this?
Yes 3!7!/9!
consider circular permutation on numerator too.
i still don't know why 7! should be included
i did consider circular permutation in the numerator
\[\frac{(2 - 1)! 3!}{9!}\]
one out of ten is unique.
i considered two groups: one is the group of friends..the other group is the other 7
No it is (8-1)!3!/9!
why 8?
...on second thought...yes 8
I guess @siddhantsharan is going to explain
Look. Total is clear 9!. Now we consider the ways in which the three friends sit together. Consider the three friends as a set. Therefore you are left with 8 different entities. Their permutaion is (8-1)!
i forgot each one of those 7 are unique
seems @siddhantsharan was two seconds late....good explanation though
Haha. Lol :)
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