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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

look at the model

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

its height is just 2 feet, whereas the actual ramp was 12feet.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so the model is 6 times smaller than the actual ramp

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

look at the grid now

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

can you tell me the length of JL ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@mlb004 still there :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes sorry

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np, take ur time :) see if u can find the length of JL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok I am looking at the grid nd trying to figure it out.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if you see, both J and L are at same height (60)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

J is on left side at 10 L is on right side at 34

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so length of JL = distance between JL= 34-10 = 24

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so we now knw two lengths of actual ramp. JK = 12 feet JL = 24 feet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we need to figure out where R goes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

look at the ramps, JL of actual ramp is represented by PR in model, right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it is

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

now this is the key :- since the model is 6 times smaller than actual ramp, PR will also be 6 times smaller than JL

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so, PR = JL/6 = 24/6 = 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes that makes sense

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good :) so what does that mean ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it means, we need to pick R such that it is 4 feet away from P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

look at grid now

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

P is located at (30, 20)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

can we say R can be at (30+4, 20) = (34, 20)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats it ! point R has to be at (34, 20)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And we explain this usuing reasoning because of all of the above notes?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you can compress it :-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Since QP(2feet) in model is smaller than JK(12feet) in actual ramp by 12 times, all dimensions in model have to be smaller than actual ramp by 6 times. From the grid, length of JL = 24. JL is represented in model as PR. Since PR has to be 6 times smaller than JL. so PR = 24/6 = 4 feet. Since P is fixed in grid at (30, 20), R point which is 4feet from P can be at (30+4, 20) = (34, 20).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok, thank you so much. :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the sum of the first 12 terms in the Fibonacci Sequence? Term - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 Febonacci Number - 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34 Numberical number? _________

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

use this :- sum of first n numbers = (n+2)th numeber - 1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

since you want to knw suermnsm of first 12 terms, you need to look for (12+2) = 14th number

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

google and tell me, whats the 14th number in fibonacci sequence

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, I am doing it now.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is 377

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

correct! thats the 14th number. subtract 1 to get the sum of first 12 numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 376 is the answer?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

sum of first 12 numbers = (12+2)the number - 1 = 14th number - 1 = 377 - 1 = 376

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes thats the answer. you can confirm it by adding manually all 12 numbers !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So is the Fibonacci Sequence always the same?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok so if it asks what the 13th term in the Fibonacci Sequence is then it would be 233?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're tossing, whether to call 233 ias 13th number or 14th number ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It asked me : What is the 13th term in the Fibonacci Sequence?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is a 2nd question, I got and understand the first question.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cuz if u start from 0,1 then 14th number wud be 233 if u start from 1,1 then 13th number wud be 233

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

You have posted this :- What is the sum of the first 12 terms in the Fibonacci Sequence? Term - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 Febonacci Number - 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34 Numberical number? _________

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Is this what they gave you to use ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My chart starts with 1 so I was saying the correct answer would be 233, correct?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

here it starts from 1,1..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, if you start from 1,1, then, 13th number is 233

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes starts 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34 and so on. Ok that is what I thought. And one more question please.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

but actual fibonacci sequence starts from 0,1... but you should use what ur chart shows :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yea sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Using the same chart starting at 1,1 What is the ratio between 14th and 13th terms in the Fibonacci sequence? Round your answer to five decimal places.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

14th number : ? 13th number : ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

377 233

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So you just subtract correct

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ratio between 14th and 13th terms = \(\large \frac{377}{233}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ratio means division !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1.6180258

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

dont forget to round it to 5 decimal places

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since it says round to 5 decimal places it would be 1.61803 is that correct?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I did it. Thank you so much for explaining that, that actually helped me with 3 problems.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :) btw this 1.61803 is called Golden ratio. it was used in Greek architectures like parthenon building and all... u may google "Golden ratio" if u have interest u wil get to know cool things

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