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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Copper has two naturally occurring isotopes. Copper-63, with an atomic mass of 62.94 u, makes up 69.17 percent of the sample, and Copper-65, with an atomic mass of 64.93 u, makes up the other 30.83 percent. Calculate the weighted average atomic mass of copper based on the given information.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@akash123

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have the solution, but i have one question on this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok..tell

OpenStudy (anonymous):

an element can have atomic mass as non-whole-numer, becoz its average of all isotopes the element is available in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but in this question, they gave the atomic mass of isotope Carbon-63 as 62.94

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which looks weird to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean, the atomic mass of an isotope of an element must always be whole number right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

becoz we are not taking any average, it would be just number of protons & neutrons

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually mass number is a whole no and mass no= no of neutrons+ no of prontons

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea, but mass of an isotope must also be an wholenumber right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

atomic mass of a element= total mass of all the constituents ( e, p and n)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea in units amu, it should wholenumber right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then atomic mass of any isotope must be whole number (in units amu)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im sorry we just started chemistry module 2.. these things look very confusing :s

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes u r right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the mass of isotopes given in the question i posted is misleading then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from where did u get this Q?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from my notes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

flvs

OpenStudy (anonymous):

flvs?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

should i ask my teacher about this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but mass no is a whole no and I think if u represent atomic mass in amu then it can be in fraction.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mass number is always whole number, there no ambiguity there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes...but now...how do we define atomic mass?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

atomic mass of an element can be a fraction too becoz we take average of isotopes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but how can an isotope have fraction mass

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u mean atomic mass unit ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's true that atomic mass of an element can be a fraction because of different isotopes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I mean..what do u mean by atomic mass of an element?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

weighted average of number of neutrons + protons of all the isotopes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im not so sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u give me some time? I'll be back in 10 or 15 min.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay thnks for ur time appreciate very much :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as we agree that mass no is a whole no now what is atomic mass--it is total mass of e, p and n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but u have been given in ur question copper-63 has atomic mass 62.94 u.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if we add the masses of all the constituents of Cu-63 then it should come out more than 63 amu

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if atomic mass = total mass of all the constituents- mass defect

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if u express atomic mass in amu then it can be in fraction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

proton mass = 1.00727638 amu and neutron mass = 1.0086649156 amu

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if we add mass of all the constituents then we'll definitely get the fraction..but i can understand...where d glitch is? as we r told that atomic mass of an element is in fraction because of different isotopes of that element existing in nature.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mass no n atomic mass of an element are two different things. mass no= no of n + no of p...so it must be a whole no but atomic mass of an element= (total mass of it's constituents) - mass defect

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