Show that if n is an integer and n^3 + 5 is odd then n is even
if i use contraposition, then that means i should assume n is odd first
and n^3 + 5 is even
so if n is odd... n = 2k + 1
then if i substitute (2k+1)^3 + 5
i assume this to be even so (2k + 1)^3 + 5 = 2n
If n^3+5 is odd then n^3 is even thus n is even.
that doesn'r make sense....
Why?
1. how can you concur n^3 is even from n^3 + 5 2. im using contraposition
Sum of two odd numbers is always even......So 5 is odd and n^3+5 is also odd.Thus, n^3 must be even.
but n^3 + 5 is the sum....not n^3
Ya...... n^3+5 is the sum which is odd AND 5 is also odd....... which means n^3 must be even.
you said sum of two odds is even
Assume n odd -> n^3 odd
n^3 is even 5 is odd how does that make sum of two odds
Actually "Assume n odd -> n^3 odd" QED.
Because sum of odd and even is always odd.
better. however, like i said im using contraposition
but i'll have to prove n^3 is odd when n is odd first...
Why use contraposition?
it was the specifics of the problem
and also to teach myself versatility
What kind of method is that......never heard of it.
assume p and q are false therefore \(\neg q \rightarrow \neg p \equiv T\)
if a, then b => if not b, then not a
so i suppose my next step is to prove n^3 is odd
Wants to show If n not even, then blah is odd Going all round the houses.....
n^3+5=odd and we know if we add two odd num. so we get even so n^3 always be even so n=even
wait no...that's not the step
@vipul92 contraposition
I think that was what I did.
that would do : if n is odd, then n^3 is odd
@vipul92
1. how to prove n^3 is odd 2. the aim is to prove n^3 + 5 is even
so i had (2k + 1)^3 + 5 = 2n 8k^3 + 12k^2 + 6k + 1 + 5 = 2n 8k^3 + 12k^2 + 6k + 6 = 2n 2(4k^3 + 6k^2 + 3k + 3) = 2n let 4k^3 + 6k^2 + 3k + 3 = x 2x = 2n QED
@igbasallote go through this link
as we know the cube of any odd is odd and for any even is even
@mayankdevnani i'd rather not have spoilers
what
i don't want to see the future steps. it spoils the fun
I think she wants to work it though....
she?
He, whatever...
ok
just because i hate math doesn't make me a girl...just saying....
Proof?
anyway...did i do the contraposition right?
Yes, u did (still think that's the long way round, though)
what about contradiction? i just assume one proposition is false right?
It's immediate by assuming n odd, then n^3 is odd...
im not as good as you in math
For the reason along the lines you used in the other proof..
anyway...proving by contradiction would be... assume n = odd then i prove n^3 + 5 is odd right?
Well u know odd by odd is odd, right (usually this can be assumed) so If n is odd so is n^3
true...but as you may have noticed....i prefer going step by step...don't worry, you'll see me skipping a lot of steps when i'm sure i know proving already
And your question already gives n^3 +5 as odd
anyway...is my assumption on proving by contradiction right?
No, because of what I just said,,,
n^3 + 5 is odd?/
The assumption here is that n is odd and we want to see if this assumption leads to contradiction.
yes...
So the first conclusion from this assumption is that n^3 is odd.
yes
And so n^3 +5 is even (odd + odd is even), which is a contradiction.
yes
although i just asked if my assumption for contradiction was right...
So n is not odd, it is even QED.
although i just asked if my assumption for contradiction was right... and I explained to you that the assumption is simply that n is odd
Problem- show n even Assume - n odd Find- a contradiction Therefore - assumption is wrong
so my assumption was right.
by "assumption was right" i meant that it'sthe assumption i use for contradiction
U said "assume n = odd then i prove n^3 + 5 is odd" This is incorrect.
well i am going to prove by contradiction..
so in a way my goal is to prove that n^3 + 5 is odd and contradict it
You cannot prove n^3 +5 is odd because n^3 +5 is given as odd already.
you dodn't have to take every word literally
I'm not sure what you want me to say, the assumption (ie something not already given) u make is that n is odd and go from there....
although i admit my wording is poor. i was just asking about the sense...
yes that's what i was asking
i was just asking whether i just assume one to be wrong
You shouldn't make any prior judgement about where your assumption will lead....
i didn't make any prior judgements..
You simply hope that it will lead to something useful for your argument.
If your are looking for the usual wording then it would be something like: "For the purpose of deriving a contradiction, we assume that n is odd...."
that seems too formal and long...and like you've said before, you hate long methods when it can be done simply
True, it depends on the situation (is it a test, what can u assume, what do you have to prove, etc)
At some point, you leave behind the basic number properties and just concentrate on the logic and reasoning.
Now your current question is iff so both directions...
i believe in displacement over distance
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