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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Please refer to the image! Calculus

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks in advance for any help!

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you know L'Hospitals rule?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, but it did not work for me...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

our prof told us to convert this limit to derivative form and solve it.

OpenStudy (raden):

wolfram told me this answer 3/10, but i dont know to get it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah I know the answer as well.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am wondering about the process..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you understand what it means to convert the limit to derivative form?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Because when you do it it gets really easy.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I do not know...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

any help would be greatly appreciated!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok the definition of derivative is:\[\frac{df}{dt}(t)=\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(t+h)-f(t)}{h}\], you need to make the limit get in the same form of this equation and of course you'll need to change variables at some point because in one the limit is to the infinity and on the other to zero. Try it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, this is past exam for my upcoming exam. I have learned two equations for the definition of derivative which I am fully aware. The equation you have given has h in the demoninator. My limit does not have denominator ...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was trying to use the other one lim x approaches a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(x)-f(a)/x-a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The other definition of derivative. I am stuck in making progress.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you could tell me, the derivative form of this limit problem, I will go ahead and solve it for sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its the same thing, I just called h=x-a, and when x-->a, h-->0, its just more compact and easier to work with.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think the first eq is equal to f prime (x) and second equation is equal to f prime a. First one gives an equation for derivative and second one gives a value for the derivative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, wait, to do this you need to see wich part of the equation relates with wich part of the derivative formula. The hole equation transforms into the derivative formula, not by parts. In both you have somthing minus something else, try to go from there and don't forget that the derivative is taken at a specific point.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just a hint, you need to have f(x) on both terms, and in one of them you need to have something that goes to zero.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you for your help. The part you are asking for me to do is the reason why I am posting here for help. Anyway, I appreciate your help for sure!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you want I can show it for you. I was just trying to make you see it for yourself.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\sqrt[10]{x^10+3x^9}-x\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}\sqrt[10]{x^{10}\left(1+\frac{3}{x} \right)}-x\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}x \sqrt[10]{1+\frac{3}{x}}-x\]\[\lim_{x \rightarrow \infty}x\left(\sqrt[10]{1+\frac{3}{x}}-1\right)\]Now you see that it is starting to get similar, both have 1, and 3/x tends to 0, but we are still missing the denominator. I define 3/x as h and do the acording substitutions, multiplicating everything by h/h=1 and therefore does not change the function. \[\frac{3}{x}=\Delta x\]\[3=x \Delta x\]\[\lim_{\Delta x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\Delta x}{\Delta x}x\left(\sqrt[10]{1+\Delta x}-1\right)\]Since 3=x Delta x\[3\lim_{\Delta x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\sqrt[10]{1+\Delta x}-\sqrt[10]{1}}{\Delta x}=3\frac{d}{dx}\left(\sqrt[10]{x}\right)(1)=\frac{3}{10}\frac{1}{\sqrt[10]{1^9}}=\frac{3}{10}\] If you have any doubts just say it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, I see now. It makes sense. I see how the eq becomes the definition equation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Really appreciate it!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ivanmlerner I hope you don't mind me asking. How did you get this: \[3\frac{d}{dx}\left(\sqrt[10]{x}\right)(1)=\frac{3}{10}\frac{1}{\sqrt[10]{1^9}}?\] I know \[3\frac{d}{dx}\left(\sqrt[10]{x}\right)(1)=\frac{3}{10}\frac{1}{\sqrt[10]{x^9}}\]But I don't understand why you put x=1 there.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The definition of the derivative is:\[\lim_{h \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}\]When you compare it with the equation I found in the first formula of the last line, you see that you are taking the derivative at x=1 of the function c^(1/10)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ahh!!! Got it! Thanks!!!

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