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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hello, I have a differential equation question !! any helper here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dy }{ dx } - \frac{ 2 }{x } y = x^4 \sin(x) \]

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

looks like linear d.e.

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

yes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the question is to solve the above differential equation brother

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

yes...i was saying that the d.e. is linear...

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

\[\frac {dx}{dy} + P(x) y = Q(x)\] do you remember that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have started already but not sure I am on the right truck or not

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

wait....have you learned about linear differential equations yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I learned how to apply integration on this , where I put the intergal on each side and trake y to left and x to the right.

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

hmm you're talking about the method of variable separation..

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

okay...let me see if i can turn this into that

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

hmm...are you sure you're supposed to solve this differential equation already? i mean...if you haven't learned the method of linear differential equations then i don't think this is possible to solve... or...it could be there's a way to use the method you're describing...but i need to be sure that it's possible... so...are you sure you are supposed to solve this already?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we do differetial equation by seprable.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is this what you mean ?

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

no...i know your lesson is variable separable....my question is...are you really supposed to solve this problem? because i have doubts that it can be solved by variable separable...but if you're really supposed to solve this using that method....theni can probably try to find a way to solve this using that method

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

check the file please

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

hmm and?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

by the way...that pdf file mentions the method of variable separable and linear d.e. (which was what i was mentioning earlier)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is my homework, lool

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

so i suppose...you're supposed to know the method of first order linear d.e.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok If possible could you teach me please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did the first one using by parts but now I am working on the second

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

the method? or how to solve this using that method?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anything you like I want to learn

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

i can't teach you the method....but i can teach you how to solve this....just refer to your pdf file as your guide....don't worry...it won't be too complicated

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

okay... so you have \[\huge \frac{dy}{dx} - \frac 2x y = x^4 \sin x\] first step: integrate -2/x y what do you get?

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

typo... integrate -2/x what do you get?

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

^integrate -2/x dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

what do you get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

before we start i want to show what I did

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can I ?

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

that would help me in determining where you're stuck

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-\int\limits_{}^{} dy=\int\limits_{}^{}x^4 \sin(x)dx \]

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

no... you can't solve this using variable separable

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks for that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let's start then

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

look at your pdf file #1 c...that's the method we're using

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

first step is determining the integrating factor the integrating factor can be solved using this formula \[I.F. = e^{\int P(x)dx}\]given\[\frac{dy}{dx} + P(x) y = Q(x)\] in our equation, we have \[\frac{dy}{dx} - \frac 2x y = x^4 \sin x\] our P(x) in this case is -2/x do you follow so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep with you

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

good. so our integrating factor would be \[\huge I.F. = e^{\int \frac 2x dx}\] can you solve this?

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

wait...typo \[\huge I.F. = e^{\int -\frac 2x dx}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I could not

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

do you know how to solve this integral? \[\huge \int -\frac 2x dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know the rule of integration e but with power integration never did

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

ignore the e first....concentrate on that integral...do you know how to solve that integral?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2/x^2

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

not exactly...that was the derivative

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

let me help you \[\huge \int -\frac 2x dx \implies -2\int \frac 1xdx\] do you know the integral of 1/x?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

integral x is one

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

integral of x is not one....that's the derivative.....

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

and i'm asking integral of 1/x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln (x)

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

right!

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

\[\int -\frac 2x dx \implies -2\ln x\]

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

now...here comes some algebra...do you agree with this: \[-2\ln x \implies \ln x^{-2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep I agree

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no need for ln I reckon

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

so \[\large e^{\int -\frac 2x dx} \implies e^{-2 \ln x} \implies e^{\ln x^{-2}}\] yes?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

do you know how to simplify \[\Large e^{\ln (x^{-2})}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not really

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

here's a hint: \[\large e^{\ln a} \implies a\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I messaged you check please

OpenStudy (lgbasallote):

i replied

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes this is MathDude000. I was wondering if someone can help me here. please reply back if you are busy. I will find someone else to study if you are busy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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