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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Anyone got any ideas? Attachment to follow,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I had dz/dv = dz/dx*dx/dv + dz/dy*dy/dv

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so wouldn't dz/dx =2 in this case? and dx/dv = 4 and dz/dy = c and dy/dv = d?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the answer should be 8 + cd

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which it says is wrong...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ParthKohli

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@calculusfunctions

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

@tukajo You have z = f(x, y), x = x(u, v), y = y(u, v) and you wish to evaluate ∂z/∂v at (0, 3). Thus\[\frac{∂z }{∂v }=\frac{ ∂z }{ ∂x }\frac{∂x }{∂v }+\frac{∂z }{ ∂y }\frac{ ∂y }{∂v }\] Do you understand thus far?

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

@tukajo this is where we have to start. Do you understand so far? Yes or no?

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

It's very simple from here. Do you know what to do next? Yes or no?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think he gets that part @calculusfunctions , since he already typed it.

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Well if he gets that then the rest really is simple because it requires substituting the values given in the chart, in to the that equation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry my internet crashed on me, yes I get it.

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

So what is your answer then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dz/dx = 2 dx/dv = 4 dz/dy = c dy/dv = d so 2*4 + c*d = 8 + cd?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it says that is incorrect though?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

rfl

hartnn (hartnn):

dx/dv (0,3)= 4 means at u=0.,v=3 but u need at x=0,y=3 so u can't use dx/dv = 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's also funny that you'd ask that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hartnn can you explain a little further?

hartnn (hartnn):

xv (0,3) = 4 means partial derivative of x w.r.t. v when u=0,v=3 equals 4 but u don't need that info while calculating \(\large\frac{∂z (0,3) }{∂v }=\frac{ ∂z(0,3) }{ ∂x }\frac{∂x }{∂v }+\frac{∂z(0,3) }{ ∂y }\frac{ ∂y }{∂v }\) even idk how u find ∂x /∂v and ∂y/∂v

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks for trying haha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn, what?

hartnn (hartnn):

i may be wrong though....sorry for confusion

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could you go into that algebraic

hartnn (hartnn):

now i think zv(0,3) means the question is asking partial derivative of z w.r.t v when u= 0,v=3 hence from the table xv(0,3) = 4 will be there now to find zx(0,3) means partial derivative of z w.r.t x when u= 0,v=3 but x(0,3)=2 and y(0,3)=1 so zx(2,1) needs to be found which is p so u get 1st term as 4p same for 2nd term.,....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah I got you.

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

@hartnn actually I think you maybe correct! I didn't observe that chart properly.

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

@tukajo let's do this again because @hartnn is correct. I made a mistake. Sorry.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okie dokie

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm ready, sorry. No more distractions, let's do this :)

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

OK we have z = f(x, y), x = x(u, v), y = y(u, v) with x(0, 3) = 2 and y(0, 3) = 1. This implies that u = 0 and v =3. Correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

OK so then it should follow that x = 2 since x(u, v) = 2 because x(0, 3) = 2. Similarly y = 1 since y(u, v) = 1 because y(0, 3) = 1. Thus we need to evaluate\[\frac{ ∂z }{∂x }|_{(2, 1)}\]and\[\frac{∂z }{∂y }|_{(2, 1)}\]Do you understand so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes I got you.

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

OK so then so far tell me what these values are.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dz/dy|(2,1) = a dz/dx(2,1) = p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dz/dx(2,1) * dx/dv(0,3) = 4p dz/dy(2,1)*dy/dv(0,3) = ad. dz/dv = 4p + ad correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well yea, it is correct. But I mean I am logically following it correctly, I think.

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

I worked it out and yes, finally! Sorry for the mistake earlier. Even teachers are human!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's all good, thanks for your help :)

OpenStudy (calculusfunctions):

Welcome!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now I have to go work on some programming. Lol C++ here I come.

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