Anyone got any ideas? Attachment to follow,
I had dz/dv = dz/dx*dx/dv + dz/dy*dy/dv
so wouldn't dz/dx =2 in this case? and dx/dv = 4 and dz/dy = c and dy/dv = d?
so the answer should be 8 + cd
which it says is wrong...
@ParthKohli
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@tukajo You have z = f(x, y), x = x(u, v), y = y(u, v) and you wish to evaluate ∂z/∂v at (0, 3). Thus\[\frac{∂z }{∂v }=\frac{ ∂z }{ ∂x }\frac{∂x }{∂v }+\frac{∂z }{ ∂y }\frac{ ∂y }{∂v }\] Do you understand thus far?
@tukajo this is where we have to start. Do you understand so far? Yes or no?
It's very simple from here. Do you know what to do next? Yes or no?
I think he gets that part @calculusfunctions , since he already typed it.
Well if he gets that then the rest really is simple because it requires substituting the values given in the chart, in to the that equation.
sorry my internet crashed on me, yes I get it.
So what is your answer then?
dz/dx = 2 dx/dv = 4 dz/dy = c dy/dv = d so 2*4 + c*d = 8 + cd?
it says that is incorrect though?
rfl
dx/dv (0,3)= 4 means at u=0.,v=3 but u need at x=0,y=3 so u can't use dx/dv = 4
it's also funny that you'd ask that.
hartnn can you explain a little further?
xv (0,3) = 4 means partial derivative of x w.r.t. v when u=0,v=3 equals 4 but u don't need that info while calculating \(\large\frac{∂z (0,3) }{∂v }=\frac{ ∂z(0,3) }{ ∂x }\frac{∂x }{∂v }+\frac{∂z(0,3) }{ ∂y }\frac{ ∂y }{∂v }\) even idk how u find ∂x /∂v and ∂y/∂v
thanks for trying haha
@hartnn, what?
i may be wrong though....sorry for confusion
could you go into that algebraic
now i think zv(0,3) means the question is asking partial derivative of z w.r.t v when u= 0,v=3 hence from the table xv(0,3) = 4 will be there now to find zx(0,3) means partial derivative of z w.r.t x when u= 0,v=3 but x(0,3)=2 and y(0,3)=1 so zx(2,1) needs to be found which is p so u get 1st term as 4p same for 2nd term.,....
ah I got you.
@hartnn actually I think you maybe correct! I didn't observe that chart properly.
@tukajo let's do this again because @hartnn is correct. I made a mistake. Sorry.
Okie dokie
I'm ready, sorry. No more distractions, let's do this :)
OK we have z = f(x, y), x = x(u, v), y = y(u, v) with x(0, 3) = 2 and y(0, 3) = 1. This implies that u = 0 and v =3. Correct?
Yes
OK so then it should follow that x = 2 since x(u, v) = 2 because x(0, 3) = 2. Similarly y = 1 since y(u, v) = 1 because y(0, 3) = 1. Thus we need to evaluate\[\frac{ ∂z }{∂x }|_{(2, 1)}\]and\[\frac{∂z }{∂y }|_{(2, 1)}\]Do you understand so far?
yes I got you.
OK so then so far tell me what these values are.
dz/dy|(2,1) = a dz/dx(2,1) = p
dz/dx(2,1) * dx/dv(0,3) = 4p dz/dy(2,1)*dy/dv(0,3) = ad. dz/dv = 4p + ad correct?
well yea, it is correct. But I mean I am logically following it correctly, I think.
I worked it out and yes, finally! Sorry for the mistake earlier. Even teachers are human!
it's all good, thanks for your help :)
Welcome!
Now I have to go work on some programming. Lol C++ here I come.
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