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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
divide by 200,
then take the natural log of both sides
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
then divide by 25
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so log(1500/200)=25r log(e)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is that right?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
natural log of x is \[\log_e(x)=\ln(x)\]
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
so \[\log_e(e)=\ln (e)=1\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so log (e) =1?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i dint get it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
mind you e is the mathematical constant. i.e. e=2.718....
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
when you write log it means the log to base 10\[\log (x)=\log_{10}(x)\]
so \[\log (10)=\log_{10}(10)=1\]
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but in theis question the base is e, so take the natural log instead of the log to base ten
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so is hould ln(e)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
so \[\ln(1500/200)=25r \ln(e)\]
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
now the ln (e) but simplifies to one
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ln(1500/200)= 2.105
ln(1500/200)/ln(e)=2.105?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i put ln(1500/200) into the calculator. it gave me 2.105
OpenStudy (anonymous):
then i divided it by ln(e)
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
oh, i wouldn't make an approximation
\[\ln(1500/200)=\ln(15/2)=\ln(7.5)\]or\[\ln(1500/200)=\ln(15/2)=\ln(15)-\ln(2)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes. and ln(7.5) = 2.104903021
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yeah, if you were going to approximate it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok so ln(7.5)/ln(e)=ln(7.5)
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so ln(7.5)/25 is the answer?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
= .0805961208
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yeah that is a rough value for r ,
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
if i was you i would leave my answer as
r=ln(7.5)/25
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
see the real question was The count in a bateria culture was 200 after 15 minutes and 1500 after 40 minutes. What was the initial size of the culture? Find the doubling period. Find the population after 120 minutes. When will the population reach 11000.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i got everything but population after 120 mins.
Parth (parthkohli):
UnkleRhaukus is right. Also,\[\rm \large \ln|e^{blah}|= blah\]
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
a general equation for growth is\[A(t)=A_0 e^{t/\tau}\]
where A(t) is the amount at time t
A_0 is the initial amount
tau is the time for the amount to increase by a factor of e
\[1500(r)=200e^{25r} \]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok... so my formula was wrong
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
your formula was fine
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
i think i made a typo though
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[A(r)=200e^{25r}\]
to find the amount at r=120 plug in r=120into the RHS
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
i have to go now ,
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so a(r) = 200e^(25*120)>
OpenStudy (anonymous):
?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yeah thats it , just simplify (using a calculator), and round down to the nearest whole number to find A at r=120