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OpenStudy (anonymous):

solve for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a)\[\frac{ x^2-10x+15 }{ x^2-6x+15 }=\frac{ 3x }{ x^2-8x+15 }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

how much could u solve ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b)\[\frac{ 2x }{ 2x^2-5x+3 }+\frac{ 13x }{ 2x^2+x+3 }=6\] either of them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i could substitute

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x^2+15\]is everywhere

hartnn (hartnn):

that won't help, i think....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all i know is that the expressions are common either by completing square or factorising

hartnn (hartnn):

jitesh, did u already think about denom ? its not factorizable , factoring won't help here

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

hmm.......

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can alsotry b)

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

u r right here @hartnn :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well \[x^2-10x+15=(x^2-8x+15)-2x\] \[x^2-6x+15=(x^2-8x+15)+2x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ p-2x }{ p+2x }=\frac{ 3x }{ p }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

nice! jonask

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[p=x^2-8x+15\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from here??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[p^2-2px=3px+6x^2\] \[p^2-5xp-6x^2=0\]

hartnn (hartnn):

p^2 -6px +px-6x^2 =0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohyes

hartnn (hartnn):

(p-6x)(p+x)=0

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

\[\frac{ 2x }{ 2x^2-5x+3 }+\frac{ 13x }{ 2x^2+x+3 }=6\]\[\frac{2x}{2x^2+3x+2x+3}+\frac{13x}{2x^2+3x-2x+3}=6\]\[\frac{2x}{x(2x+3)+1(2x+3)}+\frac{13x}{}=6\] @hartnn can u help me factor \(2x^2+x+3\)???

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks adorable

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[p=6x,p=-x\]

hartnn (hartnn):

jitesh, can't be factored

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x^2-14x+15=0\] and\[x^2-9x+15=0\]

hartnn (hartnn):

jonask on right path, u'll get it now

hartnn (hartnn):

put OR instead of AND

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait\[x^2-7x+15=0 \] 2nd 1

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

ok ! so both of this question can't be solved by factorization therefore we must use "completing the square" method.

hartnn (hartnn):

-9x ? or -7x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-7x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

noe @jiteshmeghwal9 can factor out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

which one ?

hartnn (hartnn):

u use the method, what jonask has done here

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

me ?

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

aaaargh.......it's puzzling :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

seems like they cant factor

hartnn (hartnn):

yeah, then maybe us formula

hartnn (hartnn):

*use

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x=\frac{ 14\pm \sqrt{14^2-4(15)} }{ 2 }\] the other one is error

hartnn (hartnn):

means complex roots

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[7\pm \sqrt{34}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for these one,what does wolfram say

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is error somewhere

OpenStudy (jiteshmeghwal9):

\[(x^2-10x+15)(x^2-8x+15)=3x(x^2-6x+15)\]\[x^4-8x^3+15x^2-10x^3+80x^2-150x+15x^2-120x+225=3x^3-18x^2+45x\]\[x^4-10x^3-8x^3+15x^2+80x^2+15x^2-120x+225=3x^3-18x^2+45x\]\[x^4-18x^3+110x^2-270x+225=3x^3-18x^2+45x\]\[x^4+225=3x^3+18x^3-18x^2-110x^2+220x+45x\]\[x^4+225=21x^3-128x^2+265x\]I did ths long hard work & gt this till here : & i don't know even it's right or nt :)

hartnn (hartnn):

no error in 1st part http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28x%5E2%E2%88%9210x%2B15%29%2F%28x%5E2%E2%88%926x%2B15%29%3D3x%2F%28x%5E2%E2%88%928x%2B15%29 jitesh, when u started multiplying, u should have anticipated the fourth power of x coming....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am confused wich one are we doing now ,is there previous one settled

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 2x }{ p }+\frac{ 13x }{ p-6x }=6\] \[2px-12x^2+13xp=6p^2-36p\] \[6p^2-15xp-36p+12x^2=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[6p^2+3p(5x-12)+12x^2=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2p^2+p(5x+12)+4x^2=0\]

hartnn (hartnn):

1st one was solved completely, right ? now we are on 2nd, need to think different....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets write it like the prev(1st one)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 2x }{ 2x^2-5x+3 }=6-\frac{ 13x }{ 2x^2+x+3 }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

\(2px-12x^2+13xp=6p^2-36px\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hm i got x=3/4 or 2 or \[-\frac{9+-\sqrt{105}}{4} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

crrect how

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you did wrong in your step.. just continue from what hartnn wrote

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2px−12x2+13xp=6p2−36p \] <-- wrong not -36p is +36px

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes but this does not help does it

hartnn (hartnn):

-36px

hartnn (hartnn):

u get \(2p^2+17px+4x^2=0\) not factorizable, how did u get power?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh its not p-6x its p+6x \[2x^2+x+3 = 2x^2-5x+3+6x \not -6x\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the stuff below 13x in original

OpenStudy (anonymous):

power??

hartnn (hartnn):

aah!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it works out if you fix that

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\large \frac{ 2x }{ p }+\frac{ 13x }{ p+6x }=6\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh sorry about that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2px+12x^2+13px=6p^2+36px\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[6p^2+21px-12x^2=0\] \[2p^2+7px-4x^2=(2p-x)(p+4x)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2(2x^2-5x+3)-x=0\] OR \[2x^2-5x+3+4x=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x=2OR4/3\]

hartnn (hartnn):

4/3 or 3/4 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3/4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks @hartnn @powerangers69

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