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OpenStudy (anonymous):

lim x-> 1- ln(2x) / ln x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did (1/lnx)/ (1/ln2x) to get 0/0.. dont know if that's how u should start off with

hartnn (hartnn):

directly put x=1 because u can't use L'Hopitals here.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but can't I get 0/0 when i rearrange it the way i did?

hartnn (hartnn):

ln(2x) ---> ln(2) is not 0

hartnn (hartnn):

or is it that base of log is 2 ? O.o

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isn't L'hopital is first trying to rearrange the original function to get indeterminate form

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it is ln(2x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then 1/ln x over 1/ ln 2x will be 0/0 isnt it

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, but u don't get the indeterminate form 0/0 here,

hartnn (hartnn):

no, how is it 0/0 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh..is it not.. oh yea..cuz x is not going to infinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if u cannot get indeterminate form ,u just directly sub the x in?

hartnn (hartnn):

yes!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but the answer suppose to be -infinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i just sub it in, then ln x goes to 0

hartnn (hartnn):

and it is, did u put x=1 ?

hartnn (hartnn):

so denominator =0 , right ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea

hartnn (hartnn):

actually, the reasoning goes like this... since x-> 1- , x is very very near to 1, but less than 1. so ln (1-) is very very near to 0, but less than 0.(negative) so u get -inf, instead of + inf

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then how about ln(2x), is it -ve infinity as well?

hartnn (hartnn):

when u put x=1, its just ln 2 = 0.3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so ln2 / -ve infinity is still -ve infinity?

hartnn (hartnn):

0.3/(-very small number) = -very bid number

hartnn (hartnn):

*big

hartnn (hartnn):

ln(1-) is not -inf, u can say -0

hartnn (hartnn):

\(0^-\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok, all right. thanks for ur help again! i've done enuff math problems today :D hope u see u again later haha :)

hartnn (hartnn):

sure, welcome ^_^

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