Sketch the graph by finding where f is increasing and decreasing, where f is concave up and down, local extreme points, inflection points, and intercepts.
Of what function?
oh i'm sorry: f(x)=x^2/3(5/2-x)
to make it clearer, it's f(x)=[x^(2/3)][((5/2)-x)]
\[f(x)=x^{\frac{2}{3}}\left(\frac{5}{2}-x\right)\]
wow that looks professional :)
Ok, now the first thing you gotta do, is find the points that cross the x axis. I used the button equation under the wrinting box.
so would you set the equation to 0?
Yes
so x=0, 5/2?
yes, now you need to see when this function is increasing and decreasing. Do you remember how to do that?
find crit pts where function is 0 and undefined, then make a number line?
Yes, but not where the function is 0, but where its derivative is 0.
oh ok. but this function can't be undefined, right?
Yes, but it is well defined in all reals.
i tried to get f'(x). is it 5/3(x)^(1/3) - 5(x)^(2/3)/3 ?
\[\frac{df}{dx}=\frac{2}{3}x^{-\frac{1}{3}}\left(\frac{5}{2}-x\right)-x^{\frac{2}{3}}=\frac{5}{3}x^{-\frac{1}{3}}-\frac{5}{3}x^{\frac{2}{3}}\]
cool. now i'm not sure how i would solve for x here...
Wait, did you understood what you missed when taking the derivative?
oh i thought it was the same, no?
Almost, you missed a minus in the first term, probably it was just a typo
no, i just put it in the denominator
So since the derivative tells if the function is increasing or decreasing, what you need now, is to get the intervals for wich the derivative is positive, negative, or zero.
Try to use the equation writer, its easier to understand
yeah this is actually where i got stuck, cuz i couldn't figure out what to do to to find the x-values.
Ok, now, to begin with, what happens at x=0?
it would equal 0?
no, there is a sqrt(x) in the denominator, so it is undefined. So now, the only way of the derivative give zero, would be that each term cancels the other so:\[\frac{5}{3}x^{-\frac{1}{3}}=\frac{5}{3}x^{\frac{2}{3}}\]
Not square root sorry, cubic root
would we use cross-multiplication from here?
thats one way, yes
ok let me try to solve this...
x=1, since 15x=15?
Yes, thats it. Now you need to analyze the behavior of the derivative around those critical points. See if it is positive or negative. x<0 | x=0 | 0<x<1 | x=1 | x>1 +-? | ND | +-?? | y'=0 | +-??
Do you know how to do that?
i think so. would those values be plugged into f'(x)?
Yes, thats the function we are analyzing, but in those exact points we alredy know how it is, we want to know the ones with the ??
i forgot, how did we get the 0?
the 0 is where the first term os the derivative is not defined (ND)
Because of the division by 0
Do you want me to guide you through this step?
yes please, i would appreciate that :)
Ok, for the derivative to be positive for x>0, the positive term of the equation must be greater than the negative, so:\[\frac{5}{3}x^{-\frac{1}{3}}>\frac{5}{3}x^\frac{2}{3}\]\[1>x\]
plugging it in took me a while, but is it basically -, +, - for the number line?
Yes, thats it.
but i don't understand why you had to do that stuff up there. is that necessary to solve the problem?
Oooh, sorry, I didn't explain that
the derivative gives you the slope of the function, if it is negative at an interval, then in that interval f is decreasing, if it is positive f is increasing. So far our graph is like that just by looking at the derivatives and roots:|dw:1352151941391:dw|The concavity is still unclear, but we will get there
Do you understand now?
Hey, I'll have to go for a few minutes, but I'll be back, try to find out what would be the next step to find the concavity
thats so cool! I see where you're going now. Ok, but please come back :)
Try to apply the same thinking on the concavity, think about f' increasing and decreasin (thats what concavity is). I will be back
Hey, I'm not going anymore.
oh what happened?
my sister got a ride...
oh thats cool.
So, what have you though about the next step?
just to make sure, for that previous part, would the local min be at x=0, and local max be at x=1?
Yes, thats correct
The only thing that is missing is the concavity and the brhavior of the function at infinity
Now, for f"(x), would the equation be \[-5/9(x) ^{-4/3}-10/9(x)^{-1/3}\]
Correct
solving for that, i got x =-1/2
Correct, and again undefined on x=0.
Do you know what to do next?
are they all concave down from \[(-\infty, -1/2), (-1/2, 0), (0, \infty)\]
oh, wait thats wrong.
What does it mean when the second derivative is zero?
Also, I always forget, is this concave down:|dw:1352154156677:dw|Or this?|dw:1352154167393:dw|
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