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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help please? What other information do you need in order to prove the triangles congruent using the SAS Congruence Postulate? Diagram will be in the comments.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

|dw:1352238462609:dw| Diagram is not to scale.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

SAS stands for what

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Side-Angle-Side

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So you need a) 2 congruent corresponding sides b) 2 congruent corresponding angles c) 2 congruent corresponding sides Where the angle is in between the sides

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Do you see the tick marks on segments BC and CD?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

they mean what

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That they are congruent to each other.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

More specifically, I presume that they mean that line segments BC and CD are congruent to one another.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that is correct

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

a) 2 congruent corresponding sides .... BC = CD b) 2 congruent corresponding angles c) 2 congruent corresponding sides What else can you get from this picture?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The line that intersects the whole triangle, I think that the 2 corresponding angles might be either side of point A possibly. The other 2 congruent corresponding sides may be line segments AB and AD.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

AB may or may not be congruent to AD, there's no way of knowing or proving either way

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Just given this info (of course, once you have proven the two triangles are congruent, then you can)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then how about line segments DC and DB?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

they are definitely not congruent because CD is half of BD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay, so it always cannot be half of a line segment, correct?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

not sure what you mean, but because CD = 1/2*BD CD and BD can't be equal

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand what you mean. For the two corresponding angles, I think one is ABC. Is that possible?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

remember, SAS means that the angle is between the two sides

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are we using AB and BC?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand your first comment. What exactly do you mean about using AB and BC?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wouldn't point B be an angle, at least a vertex of one?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you agree that BC = CD right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that's one of the S of SAS

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

can we say that AB = AD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, wouldn't it be more like BA = AD?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

same thing AB and BA are the same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

can you say that AB = AD?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

why

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry, my internet stopped working and logged me off and stuff. BC = CD and serves as one of the two corresponding angles. AB = AD is acting in a similar way. To me, C is the middle point, just like A is acting for this particular part. Do you understand what I mean?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

BC = CD is true because it's given (visually by the tick marks) can we say the same about AB and AD?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is not visually shown by the tick marks, but I do believe that it is true.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well unless you can prove it, AB and AD may be congruent or may not be congruent...there's no way to know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay I have a question. You said that for SAS we need the following: a) 2 corresponding sides b) 2 corresponding angles c) 2 corresponding sides Why is that? BC = CD counts as the first one, correct? Since there is only one 'A' in SAS why do we need two?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes BC = CD is the first S

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

in SAS

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nevermind, they equal each other right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

A stands for Angles (ie you need a pair of congruent corresponding angles)

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