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OpenStudy (anonymous):

A block of mass M = 3.5 kg is at rest on an incline (θ = 25.0°) that has friction between the incline’s surface and the base of the block. The block sits a distance L from the bottom of the incline. Attached to the block is a stretched spring (i.e., L > Xo ) that has a spring constant k = 24.0 N/m and a natural length of Xo = 3.0 meters. Suppose the magnitude of the frictional force acting on the block is Ffr = 20.5 Newtons. Use g = 9.81 m/s2.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1) What is Fs , the magnitude of the spring force acting on the block? 2) What is L , the total length of the spring? 3) Given that the coefficient of static friction between the incline and the block is μs = 0.85, what is the maximum distance, Lmax , from the bottom of the incline the block can be so that it is still at rest?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For #1, I feel that it should be F=ma

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

spring force = Ff - mgsin(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

find that, then for 2) spring force = 24(L-3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what does Ff mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ffr

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the friction force given

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you for the help. Im still puzzled by part 3 though.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

use mu static to calculate the max frictional force..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then spring force +mgsin25 = max frictional force 24(L-3) +mgsin25 = max frictional force... solve for L

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Max frictional force is F>Us(N) correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Us*N yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would divide N by 20.5 because Us is not given

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Us is given

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Given that the coefficient of static friction between the incline and the block is μs = 0.85,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

any questions about the problem? or you got it now? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I get L to be 3.61. It is not the correct answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

your calculator work is off

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or something.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe you didn't use N = mgcos25 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

who knows.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Shouldn't it be sin?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mgsin25=N ? The answer should also be lower then the total legnth of the spring also right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is there a reason you're picking N= mgsin25?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thats what you respond I should do.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you like sines better than cosines?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then spring force +mgsin25 = max frictional force 24(L-3) +mgsin25 = max frictional force...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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