find three consecutive integers such that the product of the first and the second is equal to the product -6 and the third
does anybody have an idea
yes
so do you know what to do? is there a technique
One approach is to try choosing a number, and try it with that and the next 2 consecutive integers and see if it works. That may sound like guessing...
is there another way?
Another approach/technique is to use variables and set up an equation. Notice that consecutive integers look like this: if first integer is "n", then 2nd integer is "n + 1" and third integer is "n + 2"
@zordoloom do you know?
So: find three consecutive integers such that the product of the first and the second is equal to the product -6 and the third product of first and second integers: (n) * (n + 1) product of -6 and third integer: (-6) * (n + 2) Those two products are supposedly equal: n(n+1) = (-6)(n + 2) Multiply everything out, simplify, and solve for "n". Then the three consecutive integers are that "n", and the next two integers after.
so i would just solve it? how do you know that the 2 "n's" are equal. the two integers could be different
Say, for example, that I know "n" is equal 2. Then what is the next consecutive integer? It's 3, right? But it's also just "n + 1" And the third consecutive integer is 4, but you can also write it as "n + 2" I only used one variable... the other integers are just expressed using that same "n", so the n's are all the same... there's only one "n".
o ok thanks for clarification. so now i would solve for n(n+1) = (-6)(n + 2)
how do you solve it? :/ n^2 + n = -6n - 12?
yes :) Don't worry... I understand your concern about the using the "n" terms. But this is a decent technique that looks better (from a teacher's perspective) than guessing! :)
what @AriPotta is saying is making sense what should i do next after i distribute
n(n+1) = (-6)(n + 2) Multiply both sides out first, then collect terms... n(n+1) = (-6)(n + 2) n^2 + n = -6n - 12 n^2 + n + 6n + 12 = -6n + 6n - 12 + 12 (get everything on left) n^2 + 7n + 12 = 0
then would i n^2+7n=-12 n^2+n =-12/7 ??????????/
is this...factoring? i haven't learned much about factoring, but this looks like where you would factor :l
o yeah true i forgot about factoring
Hmm... no, you need to factor instead.
i haven't learnt it that well
ill try
n^2 + 7n + 12 = 0 What are two numbers you can multiply to get 12 that when you add them, you get 7?
(n+4) (n+3)
is that the answer
no, you still have to find the numbers?
Yes, (n + 4)(n + 3) = 0 so, that expression is true if n = -4 or if n = -3... so you actually have two values for n.
:O wat
The final step should be to check both those solutions for n and see if they work in the original problem. n = -3 next consecutive integer: -2 third consecutive integer: -1 and (-3)(-2) = (-6)(-1) <<--- Yay, true! n = -4 next consecutive integer: -3 third consecutive integer: -2 and (-4)(-3) = (-6)(-2) <<<--- also true, yay! So the integers could be -3, -2, -1 OR -4, -3, -2
thanks
ooh
wait, how'd you know it was negative?
The factored form was (n + 4)(n + 3) = 0 When you look at those 2 sets of parentheses, ask yourself what n value would make each one = 0? The reasoning is: A * B = 0 if either A or B is = 0, then A * B is equal 0. So, if A = (n + 4) and B = (n + 3) What value of n makes A = 0? What value of n makes B = 0?
ooooooooooooooh. i get it. thanks :D
So, @AriPotta, that's why you try to factor in a problem like this... it makes it quick to get the solutions. If you have (x - 5)(x + 6) = 0, then the solutions are x = 5, x = -6... and so on.
The original equation that would have led to that factoring is: x^2 + x - 30 = 0 (x - 5)(x + 6) = 0 Solutions: x = 5, x = -6
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thanks ;)
A Mathematica solution is attached. The general idea should be apparent.
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