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OpenStudy (ammarah):

HELP ON A LAB U WILL SEE THE ATTACHMENT..that i have posted

OpenStudy (ammarah):

OpenStudy (ammarah):

so we did this thing with beans where we would pair them one by one without looking...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I think I understand the lab. And I think that the factor that determines which beans you pick...is chance.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We have the red beans, and the white beans, right there. And we pick them without looking. So...wouldn't chance/probability be the only factor that decides which beans we pick?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You already know that the beans represent alleles.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ohh ok

OpenStudy (ammarah):

so probabillity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I mean...the title of the lab is...."How Does Chance Influence Inheritence?" Soooo, it makes sense to me. "Chance." Or "probability."

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ill put probability

OpenStudy (ammarah):

wait which one r u talking about?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

number 1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

#4

OpenStudy (ammarah):

and number 1 is alleles

OpenStudy (ammarah):

right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, looks like it to me.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

i dont get number 2

OpenStudy (ammarah):

and number 3 is three

OpenStudy (ammarah):

right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, #3 is three.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm looking at #2. I'm thinking.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll be back. I'm still thinking!

OpenStudy (ammarah):

kk

OpenStudy (ammarah):

hurry cuz i have a back side too

OpenStudy (ammarah):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have no idea why we ought to only pick out one bean from each box at a time. Because in real life, genetic inheritance is determined by many alleles. Lots of alleles.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ugh i dont knoww.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Me neither. I SHOULD know. I'm ashamed. I'm gonna research the law of segregation. I wish I had the textbook you use.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

oh i have it but i dont know what to loook up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I just found something. For #2 on the front. The Law of Segregation says that organisms inherit TWO alleles for every trait. One from each parent. That's why only one bean must be chosen from each container.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What do they mean by "inferred ratio"? Do you know?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

like u just divide it by the smallest number..hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't think #8 is 50%. It's asking us...what are the chances that we would pick a pair of beans, where both beans are the same color? There are three pairs that we COULD pick: Red Red, White White, Red White. 2 out of those 3 pairs would have both beans be the same color. And 2 out of 3 is about 66.6%. Right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was WRONG

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Don't listen to me. I just made the punnett square. It really is 50%.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ohk whew

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But then wouldn't #9 also be 50%?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

do u see anything else thats wrong?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

isnt it 25?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

wait no i just guessed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can either pick the SAME colored beans, or OPPOSITE colored beans. So, if there's a 50% chance of picking the SAME colored beans, wouldn't there have to be a 50% chance of picking OPPOSITE colored beans?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

yeah

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The punnett square that I drew for myself shows me that there's a 50% of picking one Red, and one White.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ohkk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey...there's something interesting.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

huh

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm looking at question #7. Why was it important to select so many pairs? You know how when we make a punnett square, we find that the probability of picking the SAME colored beans should be 50%?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

yeah

OpenStudy (ammarah):

so thats the answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not for #7.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm just saying, the chances of picking out two SAME colored beans should be 50%. And that is a true fact. But at the end of your experiment, you ended up picking the same colored beans 55.38% of the time. A little higher than chance.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hold that thought.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ok....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think I'm onto the answer for #7. Let's look at the percentage of times that you picked the same colored beans, in each trial. Trial 1 -- 60.71% Trial 2 -- 56.76% Trial 3 -- 56.66% Trial 4 -- 48.57%

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now, the punnett square tells us that the percentage SHOULD be 50%. Right? But you see how every trial's percentage is so different?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

yes

OpenStudy (ammarah):

i still cant figure out what the answer would be...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. Now, at the END of all your trials, you ended up having picked two of the SAME colored beans....55.38% of the time. That's closer to 50% than nearly any of the trials, separately.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

so...# 7 the answer would be....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The more times you pick bean pairs, the closer you get to matching the probability of the punnett square.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So....I think the answer is that ..... It was necessary to have selected so many pairs, so that we could better understand that chance isn't always precise, in genetic inheritance.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You see? The punnett square tells us that the chance of picking two of the SAME colored beans SHOULD be 50%. But look at the lab. We NEVER got 50%. Chance isn't precise. It's close, but never dead-on.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

yup

OpenStudy (ammarah):

Why is it necessary to have so many beans in each container?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh man. I don't even know if I'm giving you the answers that your teacher's looking for. You sure you want my help, regardless? Let me think.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well, I think the answer to #10 is pretty simple.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's because each parent has an equal chance of passing on each type of allele. That's the way that real life works.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This article should help you with the last question, about the law of segregation: http://biology.about.com/od/geneticsglossary/g/law_of_segregation.htm It's the one I've been reading, to figure out this lab.

OpenStudy (ammarah):

ok, i number 8 is wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why is it wrong?

OpenStudy (ammarah):

i dont know..it just doesnt look right, i asked my friend and she said she got like 33. something

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You had two boxes of beans. Each box represents a parent. Two parents total. Right? And each box has two types of alleles: Red, and White. So, look at the punnet square here: |dw:1352870685680:dw|

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