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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the values of a and b so that the following is true.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am thinking about L'Hospital's rule but I am not sure how I would apply it...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, you can separate them, then solve them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah.... But I have two variables then.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are you sure it tends to infinity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yep.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why two variables?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you differentiate the variable you get nothing from a, but b will still be present, you can get b right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} (\frac{ \sin(2x) }{ x^3 }+a+\frac{ b }{ x^2 })=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah. I think you are right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahhh, so it tends to zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yep :P . I typed wrong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no problem, you can separate them then do the limits, you can spot it by inspection, very easily

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hmm Let me try...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

have you done it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't solve the limit of: \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ \sin(2x) }{ x^3 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can!! differentiate 3 times until the denominator is 1,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not 1, differentiate until the denominator is a constant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sin(2)=2sin(x)cos(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got -4/3 .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The limit.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sin(2x)/x^3 as x tends to infinity?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To 0 :P .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol!!! im losing it today...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but still, i would have thought it was zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Waitt.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The Limit is infinity..... :( .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We can't solve anything then.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we could, i mean if one of the variables was infinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But We can't do anything with infinity.... It's not a number.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait are you sure it should tend to 0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well I would assume it should tend to a finite value.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i suspect the limit should tend to infinity then for it so satisfy the limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not necessarily, it can be infinity, let assume it was infinity, then we can do the question with ease. have you done analysis by any chance?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Here is the question.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, no problem, assume it is infinity because i think you were right the first time round, if it was infinity just plug in infinity to the differential you had computed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If we did that then a would be infinity and b would not exist.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b would, it would be x^2,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one moment,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but since b^2 tends to infinity the whole thing would be 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x^2 sorry not b^2.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which would be 0, at when b/x^2 as x ->0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Exactly. We can't work with that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we could, if b = 0,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0/anynumber = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But it's not. B/x^2 is zero, not b.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We don't know what b is.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a could be -infinity, then this would satisfy the limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But infinity- infinity is not 0.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No it's not. Infinity is not a number. It's a concept.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is true, i moment, i am trying to multi task, i jst remembered the proof that it isnt,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, you need to apply l'hpitals rule over and over again, i would recon, but first you need to put all the equation under one common factor so \[=\frac{\sin(2x) + ax^{3} + bx}{x^{3}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110406112720AARpKn1 here is a better and easier way of doing it the sint is taylor expansion i think, the rest is pretty self explanatory

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lol. THanks :P .

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