Need help finding the quartic function with only two real given x=-1 and x=-3
(x+1)(x+3) = x^2 + 3x + x + 3 x^2 + 4x + 3
how do I find the answer
isnt that the answer that I gave
doesnt match any that they give
is it quadratic or quartic?
y=x^4-4x^3-4x^2-4x-3 y=-x^4+4x^3+4x^2+4x+3 y=x^4+4x^3+3x^2+4x-4
quartic function
do you know how to do synthetic division?
no we are learning but I dont understand it
its easy! check one by one: first x=-1 y=x^4-4x^3-4x^2-4x-3 -1) 1 -4 -4 -4 -3 -1 5 -1 5 -------------------- 1 -5 1 -5 2
would it be y=x^4+4x^3+3x^2+4x-4
so y=x^4-4x^3-4x^2-4x-3 -----> u can eliminate this
lets check
i am sorry it si hard to do division on here!
can you explain how you got the numbers in the first one you did
ok first you gave me two real zeros: x= -1 and x= -3 I took the first zero x = -1
and then put it in divisor's place
then, the numbers after the parentheses are the coefficients of the terms of one of the choices you gave me, following me?
i think so for like the one i picked it would be -1[1 4 3 4 4 but not sure what the numbers on bottom would be
the last 4 would be negative cuz its in the equation
-1) 1 4 3 4 -4
Yea I seen I made that mistake after I sent it
yeah there, so far you good?
but how did you get the numbers on bottom
ok i will tell you but before that let me tell you one more thing when lining up the coefficients.....for the equation we picked it has all the terms from degree 4, not missing a degree in the middle! But what if its like x^4 + x^2 + 3? what would you do then?
would they both be 1 1 3
no! zero would take place in the missing places 1 0 1 0 3
okay I see I was putting 1s for the xs
no no, I meant x^4 + x^2 + 3 it would be x^4 + 0x^3 + x^2 + 0x + 3 I was talking about those zeros
yea i see that i knew what you meant after i put mine cause you have to have 5 numbers
yes
now those very bottom numbers: -1) 1 4 3 4 -4 0 --------------------- First you bring down the first coefficient down, imaging that theres a zero under the first 1
ok
then add 1 + 0 -1) 1 4 3 4 -4 0 ----------------------- 1 then multiple the bottom 1 with the divisor, which in this case is -1 1(-1) = -1 -1) 1 4 3 4 -4 0 -1 ---------------------------- 1 the product goes int he middle line after the 0
am i confusing you?
not yet Im following
ok, then you would the same with 4 and -1 as you did with 1 and 0: add 4 and -1
3
the answer will take place in the bottom line after 1
yes
then you multiple 3 with the divisor, which is -1 and youll get -3 -3 will take place under the coefficient 3 in the middle line
want me to go on?
stop me whn u get confused, kay?
if you would please
so under the -4 it would be 4
then add 3 and -3 we will get 0, which will take its place in the bottom line
so far -1) 1 4 3 4 -4 0 -1 -3 -1 --------------------------------- 1 3 0
good?
yea I had a wrong number on the top line
ok then you add 4 and -1, which is 3 this 3 will take place in the bottom line after 0
then we multiply the 3 with the divisor, -1 and the answer is -3
ok now im lost
-1) 1 4 3 4 -4 0 -1 -3 -1 ------------------------- 1 3 0 3
wait a sec! brb!
how come you dont add -4 to -1 and add to middle row
are u talking about the coeffiecient -4?
yea
we havent gotten there yet!!
oh sorry
its ok
-1) 1 4 3 4 -4 0 -1 -3 -1 -3 ---------------------------- 1 3 0 3
following?
how did you get -3
whats the last number on the bottom line?
it is 3 right? so I multiplied it with -1 and I got -3 which put in the middle line under -4
get it?
yea
then you add -4 and -3, and we get -7
whenever we get a number instead of zero in the bottom, we got -7, so its not a zero for that equation
doing ok?
i think so
here we got -7, but the question says that the function has to include x = -1 right? suppose this x = -1 is the zero/root/xint, we would have gotten zero instead of -7
ok
we can take that option out
ok
do the same with the other 2 equations and let me know
ok I will
i am going to look around, call me after u r done! :)
ok
not sure if Im going in the right direction -1 1 4 3 4 -4 -2 3 -3
hey! we already did that!!
check the other 2 equations!
I thought we did the one that was y=x^4+4x^3+3x^2+4x-4 and I was doing y=-x^4+4x^3+4x^2+4x+3
I will finish tomorrow gotta get up early
want me to tell u the answer
y=-x^4+4x^3+4x^2+4x+3
thats the answer!! :)
ok!! Sorry if kept u late!! I am also studying the same
oh, you will get it, just practice more!! u will get it for sure!! :) :) :)
nope, but I learnt all that by myself when I was homeschooled 2 years ago
my home teacher was an airhead
very stupid that I taught him
awww.....hope ur family gets better soon!! but did you go to school before? what grade are you in btw?
same situation here.....everyone in my family caught virus including me
oh ok!! Call me whenever you need help with other subjects!! I will see what I can do!!! started college this year!! graduated from highschool in 2011!!
we got many things in common, I was home schooled when I was in 11th grade!! Coool!!
oh raelly? its really nice of you to help 'em!! I was sick at the time so i had to be home schooled
no problem! :) night!! take care!!! :))
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