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OpenStudy (anonymous):

limit (x csc x) is? as x approaches zero

OpenStudy (amistre64):

cscx = 1/sinx

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[\lim_{x\to~0}\frac{sin~x}{x}=1\] therefore, what do you think the limit would be of \[\lim_{x\to~0}\frac{x}{sin~x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you. but the answer you gave is not one of the choices

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we arent spose to give direct answers, only guidance

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay. thank you.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i plug in the zero in both of the x?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

no, you should "know" that sin(x)/x has a limit of 1; and that x csc(x) is just x/sin(x) and compare the results

OpenStudy (amistre64):

there is something to do with a squeeze thrm which i never really can implement, or a Lhopital

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol proving what amistre said would require squeeze therorem and that's a pain lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

theorem* we had to do that on our first test

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

squeeze theorem isn't hard, just almost unnecessary as most of what it proves in many cases that we use it in can be considered kind of like rules.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so sin x/sinx = 1 is a rule?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well anything over itself is 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean x/sinx. sorry

OpenStudy (amistre64):

rule to memorize \[\lim_{x\to~0}\frac{sin~x}{x}=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is more like a law lol.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(the anything over itself bit)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

0/0 aint 1 ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the one exception lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Our professors don't really treat zero as a number sometimes lol. Anything over 0 is undefined

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you guys know increasing/decreasing using the first derivatives of a equation and concavity using 2nd deriv.?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and a limit with 0 as the denominator (with the exception of 0 as the numerator as well, which would entail L'Hopital's rule) is DNE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you have a specific question in mind about those, such as drawing a graph?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so lets say in a func the 1st deriv is greater than 0 for all x but the 2nd deriv is less than 0 for all x? how would a graph of that look like? and can you explain the reasoning behind you ans.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that means that it is positive, increasing, but concave down so something like this|dw:1354141662047:dw| forgive my poor mouse skills

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