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OpenStudy (anonymous):
x'' + 4x = 0 ; x(0) = 5, x'(0) = 0 . use laplace to solve ivp
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hartnn (hartnn):
did u try this ?
what u got ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i got something with -5s and 4/s^2 and its 4cos2t or something
OpenStudy (anonymous):
answer is 5cos2t haha but im having a hard time undertstanding the book
hartnn (hartnn):
L[x''] = ... ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so L(x'' + 4x) = L(0) ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
if i can just figure out how to do this one then i can figure out the rest
hartnn (hartnn):
ok, L[x''] = s^2 F(x)-s x(0)-x'(0)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how do we know this? and is it s^2*F(x) - s *x() - x'(0) ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and what is F(x) haha
hartnn (hartnn):
thats general formula
and F(x) .... i had to write X(s) is the L.T of x.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay so its L[x''] = s^2*X(s) - s*x(0) - x'(0) ?
hartnn (hartnn):
yup, and you are given x'(0)
hartnn (hartnn):
and x(0)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
im so lost still
OpenStudy (anonymous):
dont you have to find the L of 4x too?
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hartnn (hartnn):
yes, ofcourse.
hartnn (hartnn):
it would be 4 X(s)
hartnn (hartnn):
x'' + 4x = 0
taking L.T
s^2*X(s) - s*x(0) - x'(0) + 4 X(s) =0
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay so L = s^2 *X(s of x) - sx(0) - x'(0) + 4X(s of x) ?
hartnn (hartnn):
yeah, now put the given initial conditions.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
what is X(s) for the 4X(s) ? is it still x?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how do they get 5cos2t haha
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the Lt of x is 1/s^2, right?
hartnn (hartnn):
isolate X(s) from that equation
hartnn (hartnn):
then take inverse L.T
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay right now i have s^2X(s) - sx(0) - x'(0) + 4X(s) = 0
hartnn (hartnn):
put the initial values.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay so s^2X(s) - s(5) - 0 + 4X(s) = 0
hartnn (hartnn):
yes, now isolate X(s)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
s^2X(s) + 4X(s) = 5s
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
= 5cos2t omg i got it! well i dont understand it but i got an answer by struggling my way through it , thank you for all your help :)
hartnn (hartnn):
what did u not understand ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the very first equation, where you got that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and how to apply it
hartnn (hartnn):
thats a standard equation...like a formula.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh okay that makes sense
hartnn (hartnn):
L[x'] = sX(s) - x(0)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay and what is X(s) again?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh its the laplace, right?
hartnn (hartnn):
X(s) is the L.T of x.
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hartnn (hartnn):
yes.
hartnn (hartnn):
L[x'] = sX(s) - x(0)
L[x''] = s^2X(s) - s x(0)- x'(0)
L[x'''] = s^3X(s) -s^2 x(0) - sx'(0) -x''(0)
and so on...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
OH thank you so much!!!!!
hartnn (hartnn):
welcome ^_^