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OpenStudy (jennychan12):

See attached (integrals).

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

75, 81, 87

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what do you get when you integrate 75?

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

sorry i understand 75 now.

OpenStudy (raden):

i have to rotation my laptop to looking for it

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

i just need to know how to do 81 and 87. @RadEn sorry about that. you could copy and paste in onto a word document and then rotate it...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ok, well, the second ftc is a consequence of the following\[\frac d{dx}\int_{a(x)}^{b(x)}f(t)~dt=\frac d{dx}~F(b(x)-F(a(x))\] \[\frac d{dx}~F(b(x)-F(a(x))=F'(b(x))b'(x)-F'(a(x))a'(x)\] and since F' = f, and to rewrite it more readable \[\frac d{dx}~\int_{a}^{b}f(t)~dt~=~f(b)b'-f(a)a'\]

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

so for 81, you're just basically differentiating the integral?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

but without having to integrate first and then derive ... just use the consequences

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

thanks. i'm just really bad with understanding directions. and for 87, you're integrating then plugging it into the bounds?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

not really integrating, they give you the derivative already as the function that is integrating. rewite the function, and plug in your limits and thier derivatives to solve

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if given f(t), with limits a and b f(b) b' - f(a) a' is the solution

OpenStudy (amistre64):

85 for example f(t) = t cos(t) ; a=0, b=x (x cos(x))x' - (0 cos(0))0' = x cos(x)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes ... but without working it up and then down again

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

ok thanks

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

ok sorry, i'm just confused on 87 now.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ok, you tell me how you think it should go, and ill correct you along the way :)

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

i'm not really sure. since you're supposed to find F'(x), isn't it just (4x+1) for #87? and i guess plug in the bounds?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

@amistre64 should that be chain rule 87

OpenStudy (amistre64):

close (4b+1)b' - (4a+1)a'

OpenStudy (amistre64):

chain rule is a result of the workings yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(4(x+2)+1)x' - (4x+1)x' and x'=1 soo 4(x+2)+1 - 4x-1

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

i got (8x+10) is that right?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

without chain rule

OpenStudy (amistre64):

(8x + 10) is not right as a final result, no

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

hmm how to do

OpenStudy (amistre64):

would you agree that \[\int_{a}^{b}f(t)~dt=F(b)-F(a)\]???

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

yup

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and that the derivative of F is f?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

yup

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ok then all thats needed is to take the derivative of F(b)-F(a) \[\frac d{dx}[F(b)-F(a)]\] \[\frac d{dx}[F(b)]-\frac d{dx}[F(a)]\] \[f(b)b'-f(a)a'\] we agree?

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

ok

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so the only thing to do is take the f(t) that is sitting inside the integral; and work in the limits and their derivatives ...

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

this is the work that they have. but i don't understand why they integrate it then take the derivative.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

f(t) = (4t+1) ; a=x, b=x+2 a'=1, b'=1 f(b)b' - f(a)a' (4(x+2)+1)*1 - (4x+1) * 1

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

ohh wow that's simple last question @amistre64 how do we know when to derivative i mean in what form

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

first integrate it and then derivative

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you never need to integrate first and then derive .... the rule itself proves that the extra steps are not needed there are some on the page there that simply cant be integrated ...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if you want to integrate up first, and then derive down again thats totally your own personal call, but problems 75-80 were used to establish the truth of it to begin with

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

ok...

OpenStudy (ksaimouli):

i got u

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:) good luck

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

thanks.

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