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OpenStudy (dls):

y=sinx^cosx+cosx^sinx dy/dx=?

OpenStudy (dls):

My attempt:

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\LARGE \frac{1}{y} \times \frac{dy}{dx} =\frac{cosx}{sinx} \times (-sinx) + (cosx)(-cosec^{2}x) + \frac{sinx}{cosx} \] \[\LARGE \times (cosx)+(sinx)(\sec^{2}x)\]

OpenStudy (dls):

last term hidden is sinx/cos then continued below

hartnn (hartnn):

what was that ?!! y= u+v find du/dx and dv/dx using logarithmic differentiation then add...

OpenStudy (dls):

lol

OpenStudy (dls):

I used chain rule for logsinx then UV rule with (cosx)logsinx

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\LARGE logy=(cosx)(logsinx)+(sinx)(logcosx)\]

hartnn (hartnn):

log (A+B) cannot be simplified to log A +log B

OpenStudy (dls):

where is log(A+B) :O

OpenStudy (dls):

oh

OpenStudy (dls):

NEVERMIND

hartnn (hartnn):

y= u+v find du/dx and dv/dx using logarithmic differentiation then add... thats the only way...

OpenStudy (abb0t):

Use chain rule.

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\LARGE logy=\log(cosx^{cosx} \times -sinx + (-sinx^{sinx} \times cosx)\]

OpenStudy (dls):

?

hartnn (hartnn):

u =sin x^cos x du/dx =... ?

OpenStudy (dls):

again log? O_O

OpenStudy (dls):

okay no

hartnn (hartnn):

again ? this is the 1st time, you use log...

OpenStudy (dls):

:/

OpenStudy (dls):

cosxlogsinx?

OpenStudy (dls):

CONFUSED

hartnn (hartnn):

log u = cos x log sin x now diff. use product rule.

OpenStudy (dls):

thats what I did.. I got: cotx cosx

hartnn (hartnn):

did u forget product rule ?

OpenStudy (dls):

:/ no :///

hartnn (hartnn):

(uv)' = uv'+u'v

OpenStudy (dls):

\[cosxlogsinx= cosx(\frac{1}{sinx}) + logsinx (-sinx)\]

OpenStudy (dls):

isnt it :/..

hartnn (hartnn):

1/u du/dx = cos x (1/ sin x) (cos x) - sin x log (sinx)

OpenStudy (dls):

I guess I studied too much :P

OpenStudy (dls):

thats what I did >.<

hartnn (hartnn):

extra cos x come due to chain rule is it ?

OpenStudy (dls):

cosxlogsinx =>cosx(1/sinx * cosx)(chain rule ) cosxcotx now product rule whats wrong with it :/

hartnn (hartnn):

because there was no 2nd term in there....thats why i asked u about product rule...

OpenStudy (dls):

stil confused :|

hartnn (hartnn):

ok, just tell me what u get finallu for du/dx .. ?

hartnn (hartnn):

u get this, right ? 1/u du/dx = cos x (1/ sin x) (cos x) - sin x log (sinx)

OpenStudy (dls):

let me write

hartnn (hartnn):

don't write in latex, takes time unnecessarily...

OpenStudy (dls):

yes,im solving last time :o only du/dx

OpenStudy (dls):

i get

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, only du/dx....dv/dx will be very similar....

OpenStudy (dls):

-cosx cosec^2 x -sinxcotx :///////

OpenStudy (dls):

on solving cosxcotx by product rule thats it

hartnn (hartnn):

:( didn't u get this ? 1/u du/dx = cos x (1/ sin x) (cos x) - sin x log (sinx)

OpenStudy (dls):

I dont think so loll :/

hartnn (hartnn):

log u = cos x log sin x this ?

OpenStudy (dls):

yes

OpenStudy (dls):

cos x (1/sinx * cosx)

OpenStudy (dls):

log dissapeared

hartnn (hartnn):

(log u)' = (cos x log sin x )' 1/u u' = cos x (log sin x)' + log sin x (cos x)' did u get this step ?

hartnn (hartnn):

just simple product rule.

OpenStudy (dls):

okay

hartnn (hartnn):

want to continue ? or should i ?

OpenStudy (dls):

i will

OpenStudy (dls):

logsinx(-sinx)+cosx(logsinx) okay?

OpenStudy (dls):

DUH

hartnn (hartnn):

my next step 1/u u' = cos x (log sin x)' + log sin x (cos x)' 1/u u' = cos x (1/ sin x)(sin x)' + log sin x (-sin x) get that ? ^

hartnn (hartnn):

use of chain rule.

OpenStudy (dls):

1minute and its over!

OpenStudy (dls):

give me

OpenStudy (dls):

lol been 30 minutes:/

hartnn (hartnn):

let me do it...

hartnn (hartnn):

u just see.

OpenStudy (dls):

ivedone

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\LARGE logsinx(-sinx)+cosx(\frac{1}{sinx} \times cosx)\] RIGHT?

hartnn (hartnn):

1/u u' = cos x (log sin x)' + log sin x (cos x)' 1/u u' = cos x (1/ sin x)(sin x)' + log sin x (-sin x) 1/u u' = cos x (1/ sin x)(cos x) - sin x log sin x du/dx = u [cos x . cot x - sin x log sin x] finally du/dx = [sin x^cos x][cos x . cot x - sin x log sin x] any doubts in any step ?

OpenStudy (dls):

\[FINAL:logsinx(-sinx)+cosxcot\]

OpenStudy (dls):

x

OpenStudy (dls):

this is what u get out of cosx log sinx right? ^ and im doing it myself...ill check from urs,this is very confusingnow just tell me that^ though i checked with WF

hartnn (hartnn):

du/dx = [sin x^cos x][cos x . cot x - sin x log sin x] in same manner find dv/dx.

hartnn (hartnn):

and to get final answer, just add them

OpenStudy (dls):

YES! correct!

OpenStudy (dls):

that was one hell of a question -_-'

hartnn (hartnn):

but easy.

OpenStudy (dls):

for u!

hartnn (hartnn):

sum of 2 eaSY Q's

OpenStudy (dls):

it was new for me..so yeah..next time easy for me too...(hopefully)

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