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y=sinx^cosx+cosx^sinx
dy/dx=?
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OpenStudy (dls):
My attempt:
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OpenStudy (dls):
\[\LARGE \frac{1}{y} \times \frac{dy}{dx} =\frac{cosx}{sinx} \times (-sinx) + (cosx)(-cosec^{2}x) + \frac{sinx}{cosx} \]
\[\LARGE \times (cosx)+(sinx)(\sec^{2}x)\]
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OpenStudy (dls):
last term hidden is sinx/cos then continued below
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hartnn (hartnn):
what was that ?!!
y= u+v
find du/dx and dv/dx using logarithmic differentiation
then add...
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OpenStudy (dls):
lol
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OpenStudy (dls):
I used chain rule for logsinx then UV rule with (cosx)logsinx
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OpenStudy (dls):
\[\LARGE logy=(cosx)(logsinx)+(sinx)(logcosx)\]
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hartnn (hartnn):
log (A+B) cannot be simplified to log A +log B
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OpenStudy (dls):
where is log(A+B) :O
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OpenStudy (dls):
oh
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OpenStudy (dls):
NEVERMIND
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hartnn (hartnn):
y= u+v
find du/dx and dv/dx using logarithmic differentiation
then add...
thats the only way...
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OpenStudy (abb0t):
Use chain rule.
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OpenStudy (dls):
\[\LARGE logy=\log(cosx^{cosx} \times -sinx + (-sinx^{sinx} \times cosx)\]
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OpenStudy (dls):
?
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hartnn (hartnn):
u =sin x^cos x
du/dx =... ?
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OpenStudy (dls):
again log? O_O
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OpenStudy (dls):
okay no
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hartnn (hartnn):
again ? this is the 1st time, you use log...
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OpenStudy (dls):
:/
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OpenStudy (dls):
cosxlogsinx?
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OpenStudy (dls):
CONFUSED
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hartnn (hartnn):
log u = cos x log sin x
now diff.
use product rule.
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OpenStudy (dls):
thats what I did..
I got:
cotx cosx
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hartnn (hartnn):
did u forget product rule ?
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OpenStudy (dls):
:/ no :///
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hartnn (hartnn):
(uv)' = uv'+u'v
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OpenStudy (dls):
\[cosxlogsinx= cosx(\frac{1}{sinx}) + logsinx (-sinx)\]
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OpenStudy (dls):
isnt it :/..
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hartnn (hartnn):
1/u du/dx = cos x (1/ sin x) (cos x) - sin x log (sinx)
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OpenStudy (dls):
I guess I studied too much :P
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OpenStudy (dls):
thats what I did >.<
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hartnn (hartnn):
extra cos x come due to chain rule
is it ?
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OpenStudy (dls):
cosxlogsinx
=>cosx(1/sinx * cosx)(chain rule )
cosxcotx
now product rule
whats wrong with it :/
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hartnn (hartnn):
because there was no 2nd term in there....thats why i asked u about product rule...
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OpenStudy (dls):
stil confused :|
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hartnn (hartnn):
ok, just tell me what u get finallu for du/dx .. ?
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hartnn (hartnn):
u get this, right ?
1/u du/dx = cos x (1/ sin x) (cos x) - sin x log (sinx)
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OpenStudy (dls):
let me write
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hartnn (hartnn):
don't write in latex, takes time unnecessarily...
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OpenStudy (dls):
yes,im solving last time :o
only du/dx
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OpenStudy (dls):
i get
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hartnn (hartnn):
yes, only du/dx....dv/dx will be very similar....
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OpenStudy (dls):
-cosx cosec^2 x -sinxcotx
:///////
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OpenStudy (dls):
on solving
cosxcotx by product rule thats it
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hartnn (hartnn):
:(
didn't u get this ?
1/u du/dx = cos x (1/ sin x) (cos x) - sin x log (sinx)
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OpenStudy (dls):
I dont think so loll :/
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hartnn (hartnn):
log u = cos x log sin x
this ?
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OpenStudy (dls):
yes
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OpenStudy (dls):
cos x (1/sinx * cosx)
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OpenStudy (dls):
log dissapeared
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hartnn (hartnn):
(log u)' = (cos x log sin x )'
1/u u' = cos x (log sin x)' + log sin x (cos x)'
did u get this step ?
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hartnn (hartnn):
just simple product rule.
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OpenStudy (dls):
okay
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hartnn (hartnn):
want to continue ?
or should i ?
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OpenStudy (dls):
i will
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OpenStudy (dls):
logsinx(-sinx)+cosx(logsinx) okay?
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OpenStudy (dls):
DUH
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hartnn (hartnn):
my next step
1/u u' = cos x (log sin x)' + log sin x (cos x)'
1/u u' = cos x (1/ sin x)(sin x)' + log sin x (-sin x)
get that ? ^
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hartnn (hartnn):
use of chain rule.
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OpenStudy (dls):
1minute
and its over!
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OpenStudy (dls):
give me
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OpenStudy (dls):
lol been 30 minutes:/
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hartnn (hartnn):
let me do it...
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hartnn (hartnn):
u just see.
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OpenStudy (dls):
ivedone
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OpenStudy (dls):
\[\LARGE logsinx(-sinx)+cosx(\frac{1}{sinx} \times cosx)\]
RIGHT?
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hartnn (hartnn):
1/u u' = cos x (log sin x)' + log sin x (cos x)'
1/u u' = cos x (1/ sin x)(sin x)' + log sin x (-sin x)
1/u u' = cos x (1/ sin x)(cos x) - sin x log sin x
du/dx = u [cos x . cot x - sin x log sin x]
finally
du/dx = [sin x^cos x][cos x . cot x - sin x log sin x]
any doubts in any step ?
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OpenStudy (dls):
\[FINAL:logsinx(-sinx)+cosxcot\]
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OpenStudy (dls):
x
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OpenStudy (dls):
this is what u get out of cosx log sinx right? ^
and im doing it myself...ill check from urs,this is very confusingnow
just tell me that^
though i checked with WF
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hartnn (hartnn):
du/dx = [sin x^cos x][cos x . cot x - sin x log sin x]
in same manner find dv/dx.
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hartnn (hartnn):
and to get final answer, just add them
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OpenStudy (dls):
YES! correct!
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OpenStudy (dls):
that was one hell of a question -_-'
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hartnn (hartnn):
but easy.
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OpenStudy (dls):
for u!
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hartnn (hartnn):
sum of 2 eaSY Q's
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OpenStudy (dls):
it was new for me..so yeah..next time easy for me too...(hopefully)
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