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OpenStudy (jennychan12):

Integral Question. See below,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

O_o .

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

If \[\int\limits_{0}^{6} (x^2-2x+2)dx\] is approximated by 3 inscribed rectangles of equal width, then the approximation is... 1) 24 B) 26 C) 28 D)76 E) 48

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

sorry typed something wrong. and that 1 is supposed to be an A

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

so i got the integrated area to be 48, so answers either a b or c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, what kind of rectangles? Left, right, or midpoint?

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

the problem doesnt say. i'm assuming left

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

cuz it says inscribed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well you are right. It's either A, B or C :D . Now can you do it out? :) .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\Delta(x)=\frac{ 6-0 }{ 3 }\]

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

i'm confused my friend says to use riemann sum. what's the formula for that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\Delta(x) = 2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In this particular example, a Riemann sum is basically the sum of the individual rectangles.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When you learn about definite intergals you will have a good idea about what they actually mean.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

is it \[\frac{ b-a }{ n } \sum_{i = 1}^{n} f(x) \] ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No wait, that's right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So yeah you get the idea. It's the sum of all the rectangles multiples by the change in x,(i.e the width) .

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

that's what i did but i got 28 and the answer's 26

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then you have to use diffrent kinds of rectangles because your answer is correct.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

26 or 28 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's 26.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But if you use left rectangles then it's 28.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

why? sorry can u explain?

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

oh.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

so right hand it's 26 or..?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So this is a very stupid question because it dosen't specify the type of rectangles.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well right hand is 76 actually.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But it dosen't specify what type of rectangle. Left, right or midpoint.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

where'd the 26 come from? midpoint?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, midpoint is 46.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But shall I explain left and right rectangles?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you use left, you get 28. If you use right you get 76.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Shall I explain?

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

wait so where did the 26 come from. please explain. i'm so lost. :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

26 isn't the correct answer.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

cuz this other person used 2(f(1)+f(2)+f(4)) and got 26 but i don't understand where the f(1) came from...

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

oh.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait hold on.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, 28 should be correct. I disagree with the answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you use 3 subintervals you CANNOT get 26 in anyway.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The formula would be (2)(f(0)+f(2)+f(4))

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

yeah i did that... and got 28

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which is absolutely correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It CANNOT be 26 if you use left rectangles.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you use right rectangles it's (2)(f(2)+f(4)+f(6)) which is 76.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

yeah i got 28 and 76 but i chose 28. so my teacher is wrong. hmph.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yep, you teacher is wrong.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

thanks for clarifying. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In reality the exact value of that integral is 48 but you will learn that later.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

yeah i know. i calculated it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Kk.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Good 'ol Riemann's screwing with everybody's head.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just hope I don't have to do it after my first year in uni :/ . AP calc helped so much though XD .

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

ohhhhhhh i think i got it they used average value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

$$A\simeq2(2^2-2(2)+2+4^2-2(4)+2+6^2-2(6)+2)\\\ \ \ =2(4-4+2+16-8+2+36-12+2)\\\ \ \ =2(38)=76$$ (using right end-points)$$A\simeq2(0^2-2(0)+2+2^2-2(2)+2+4^2-2(4)+2)=2(2+4-4+2+16-8+2)\\\ \ \ =2(14)=28$$ (using left end-points)$$A\simeq2(1^2-2(1)+2+3^2-2(3)+2+5^2-2(5)+2)\\\ \ \ =2(1-2+2+9-6+2+25-20+2)\\\ \ \ =2(13)=26$$ (using midpoints)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

^ Reason why they they should specify the question.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

my friend just assumed that inscribed meant left end points

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@oldrin.bataku : Please don't just give the answer next time. The point of this place is to help other people learn. Not give them the answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jennychan12 : That's a flase assumption.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

false*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@oldrin.bataku : If you use midpoints, it's 46 not 26.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lol Oldrin and i have been spending plenty of time explaining problems to different users. I would give him a break xD. I was bored and decided to use this site for the first time today and, oddly enough, I can't stop attempting to solve problems. Probably because I don't want to forget my math whilst im on winter break.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know but it's just that's it's against the TOS so I try not to. I make that mistake too. It's cool ^_^ .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Dido525 you're right, 2(5) = 10 so it's actually 2(23) = 46 for the approximate area.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If it requires inscribed rectangles then the approximation must use left end-point... mid- and right- will not be entirely under the parabola.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's why we have the trapozoidal rule ;) . Ans simpsons rule :P .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But yes @oldrin.bataku is correct. If they MUST be inscribed then you MUSt use left rectangles.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

MUST*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Dido525 if you go into a Scientific Computation course you'll learn about plenty more numerical methods e.g. Runge-Kutta or Adams-Moulton :-p Euler's and Verlet are really common for physics problems.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Conversation is too much for this PoSci major xD.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I looked at Runge-kutta but it makes no sense XD . I am going much deeper into math next year so hopefully then :) .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry that we turned this page into a discussion @jennychan12 .

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

it's aiight.

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Nobody drew a damn diagram :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sigh...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Diagram was drawn in the other thread.

OpenStudy (jennychan12):

^ haha yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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