Integral Question. See below,
O_o .
If \[\int\limits_{0}^{6} (x^2-2x+2)dx\] is approximated by 3 inscribed rectangles of equal width, then the approximation is... 1) 24 B) 26 C) 28 D)76 E) 48
sorry typed something wrong. and that 1 is supposed to be an A
so i got the integrated area to be 48, so answers either a b or c
Wait.
Wait, what kind of rectangles? Left, right, or midpoint?
the problem doesnt say. i'm assuming left
cuz it says inscribed
Well you are right. It's either A, B or C :D . Now can you do it out? :) .
\[\Delta(x)=\frac{ 6-0 }{ 3 }\]
i'm confused my friend says to use riemann sum. what's the formula for that?
\[\Delta(x) = 2\]
In this particular example, a Riemann sum is basically the sum of the individual rectangles.
When you learn about definite intergals you will have a good idea about what they actually mean.
is it \[\frac{ b-a }{ n } \sum_{i = 1}^{n} f(x) \] ??
No wait, that's right.
So yeah you get the idea. It's the sum of all the rectangles multiples by the change in x,(i.e the width) .
that's what i did but i got 28 and the answer's 26
Then you have to use diffrent kinds of rectangles because your answer is correct.
26 or 28 ?
It's 26.
But if you use left rectangles then it's 28.
why? sorry can u explain?
oh.
so right hand it's 26 or..?
So this is a very stupid question because it dosen't specify the type of rectangles.
Well right hand is 76 actually.
But it dosen't specify what type of rectangle. Left, right or midpoint.
where'd the 26 come from? midpoint?
No, midpoint is 46.
But shall I explain left and right rectangles?
If you use left, you get 28. If you use right you get 76.
Shall I explain?
wait so where did the 26 come from. please explain. i'm so lost. :(
26 isn't the correct answer.
cuz this other person used 2(f(1)+f(2)+f(4)) and got 26 but i don't understand where the f(1) came from...
oh.
Wait hold on.
Yeah, 28 should be correct. I disagree with the answer.
If you use 3 subintervals you CANNOT get 26 in anyway.
The formula would be (2)(f(0)+f(2)+f(4))
yeah i did that... and got 28
Which is absolutely correct.
It CANNOT be 26 if you use left rectangles.
if you use right rectangles it's (2)(f(2)+f(4)+f(6)) which is 76.
yeah i got 28 and 76 but i chose 28. so my teacher is wrong. hmph.
Yep, you teacher is wrong.
thanks for clarifying. :)
In reality the exact value of that integral is 48 but you will learn that later.
yeah i know. i calculated it.
Kk.
Good 'ol Riemann's screwing with everybody's head.
I just hope I don't have to do it after my first year in uni :/ . AP calc helped so much though XD .
ohhhhhhh i think i got it they used average value
LOL
$$A\simeq2(2^2-2(2)+2+4^2-2(4)+2+6^2-2(6)+2)\\\ \ \ =2(4-4+2+16-8+2+36-12+2)\\\ \ \ =2(38)=76$$ (using right end-points)$$A\simeq2(0^2-2(0)+2+2^2-2(2)+2+4^2-2(4)+2)=2(2+4-4+2+16-8+2)\\\ \ \ =2(14)=28$$ (using left end-points)$$A\simeq2(1^2-2(1)+2+3^2-2(3)+2+5^2-2(5)+2)\\\ \ \ =2(1-2+2+9-6+2+25-20+2)\\\ \ \ =2(13)=26$$ (using midpoints)
^ Reason why they they should specify the question.
my friend just assumed that inscribed meant left end points
@oldrin.bataku : Please don't just give the answer next time. The point of this place is to help other people learn. Not give them the answer.
@jennychan12 : That's a flase assumption.
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@oldrin.bataku : If you use midpoints, it's 46 not 26.
Lol Oldrin and i have been spending plenty of time explaining problems to different users. I would give him a break xD. I was bored and decided to use this site for the first time today and, oddly enough, I can't stop attempting to solve problems. Probably because I don't want to forget my math whilst im on winter break.
I know but it's just that's it's against the TOS so I try not to. I make that mistake too. It's cool ^_^ .
@Dido525 you're right, 2(5) = 10 so it's actually 2(23) = 46 for the approximate area.
If it requires inscribed rectangles then the approximation must use left end-point... mid- and right- will not be entirely under the parabola.
That's why we have the trapozoidal rule ;) . Ans simpsons rule :P .
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But yes @oldrin.bataku is correct. If they MUST be inscribed then you MUSt use left rectangles.
MUST*
@Dido525 if you go into a Scientific Computation course you'll learn about plenty more numerical methods e.g. Runge-Kutta or Adams-Moulton :-p Euler's and Verlet are really common for physics problems.
Conversation is too much for this PoSci major xD.
I looked at Runge-kutta but it makes no sense XD . I am going much deeper into math next year so hopefully then :) .
Sorry that we turned this page into a discussion @jennychan12 .
it's aiight.
Nobody drew a damn diagram :P
Sigh...
Diagram was drawn in the other thread.
^ haha yes
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