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OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Solve the general second order linear ODE.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

@nincompoop , I'm waiting.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

write the DE in terms of operator, as you assumed the linearity, factorize it ... let (first factored operator) y = u (second factor) u = your input solve the second for u, then use it to solve for first.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

y''+p(x)y'+q(x)y=0 I'll start with homogenous first? And find two linearly independent solutions?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

i don't think you can generally solve for the systems containing p(x) or q(x) even if there is specific values for p(x) and q(x), they are not so easily solvable Eg. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/HermiteDifferentialEquation.html

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Mm - I should've clarified and used constant coefficients. >.<

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Second-OrderOrdinaryDifferentialEquation.html wait, lemme read this >.>

OpenStudy (experimentx):

yep!! if you had constant coefficients, you can factor up the operator as (D-a)(D-b)y = f(x) let (D-b)y = u then it becomes (D-a)u = f(x) <--- this is first order linear, solve for 'u' let u = g(x) be it's solution then, you have (D-a)y = g(x) <--- again linear in y. The e^(kx) are characteristics of linear equations. There are better methods, but this is only for concept/

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

@experimentX , what i never understood is why can one factor the operator? is it only because you can relate it to the characterisitic equation?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

depending on those values 'a' and 'b', you either get decaying type or harmonic or damped harmonic solution.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

this is because the operators are commutative. (D-a)[(D-b)y(x)] = (D-b)[(D-a)y(x)]

OpenStudy (experimentx):

at least for constant coefficients .. since there is no 'x' factor to differentiate.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

@nincompoop , I don't need your copy pasting it's lagging my post.

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

I see @experimentX - so in case of so in other cases you can't simply factor the operator?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

No ... check this out (D + a)(x^2D + b) y(x)

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

(D + a)(x^2D + b) y(x) =/= (x^2D + b)(D + a) y(x)

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

ohhh

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Actually I had originially asked this question to make @nincompoop stop being so annoying - I just realized that it has practical applications in RLC circuits though x.x

OpenStudy (experimentx):

there are lot's of application ... usually where you get sinusoidal periodic solutions. like all sorts of pendulums, RLC, etc ,etc

OpenStudy (inkyvoyd):

Hmm I'ma close this and open a new question, actually more of a physics question. I'm guessing it'll pop up a first order ODE, I just want to formulate one I guess.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

sure

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