Please help me :) meoww?
let \[\sqrt{\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }- \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }} = x - \sqrt{y}\] square both sides and form a pair of simultaneous equations to find x and y given they are rational. hence find (simplified form) \[\sqrt{\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }- \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }}\]
@Kuoministers Start by squaring both sides and show me your working,I can help you where you go wrong.
sure
Use (x-y)^2=x^2-2ab+b^2 When you solve the RHS of your equation
I mean (x-y)^2=x^2-2xy+y^2*
\[\frac{ 7 }{ 12 } - \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 } = x^{2} - 2x \sqrt{7} + y\]
Where did you get sqrt{7} from ?
\[\frac{ 7 }{ 12 } = x^{2} + y\] \[\frac{- \sqrt{3} }{ 3 } = -2x \sqrt{y}\] ohh that supposed to be y
i dont know what to do :p
For the second equation, express x in terms of y.
\[(-\frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 } + 2x)^{2} = y\] right?
nono i cant do that
im so lost...
Just consider the second equation. Divide both sides by \(-2\sqrt y\) . What do you get?
yea i dont know how to divide the RHS by that \[\sqrt[-2]{y}\]
\[\frac{- \sqrt{3} }{ 3 } = -2x \sqrt{y}\]\[\frac{\frac{- \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }}{-2 \sqrt{y}} = \frac{-2x \sqrt{y}}{-2\sqrt{y}}\]Cancel what you can cancel.Simplify it, what do you get?
umm the negative on the RHS i think? idk what on the right hand side... but the left hand side its x :P
left right :| You should get +ve for both sides :|
:P wow im a special child :O
anyways i dont know how to simplify that
\[\frac{\frac{- \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }}{-2 \sqrt{y}} = \frac{-2x \sqrt{y}}{-2\sqrt{y}}\]\[\frac{- \sqrt{3} }{ 3(-2) \sqrt{y} } = x\]\[\frac{\sqrt{3} }{ 6\sqrt{y} } = x\]Got it?
oh yea yea i got that!!
Sub. this into the first equation, what do you get?
\[\frac{ 7 }{ 12 } = (\frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 6\sqrt{y} })^{2} + y\]
Okay, simplify the *right* side Note: left = right
\[\frac{ 7 }{ 12 } = \frac{ 3 }{ 36y } + y\]
Simplify the first term on the right.
\[21y = 3 + 36y ^{2}\]
Can you solve the quadratic?
ofc
(9y - 3)(4y - 1) right?
(9y - 3)(4y - 1)=0
so whats the final answer?
answer in book says \[-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } + \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }\]
i think our answer for y was wrong?
What's your answer for y?
root 3 \ 3
i think we didnt rationalise the denominator?
:\ (9y - 3)(4y - 1)=0 (9y - 3)=0 or (4y - 1)=0 y = 1/3 or y = 1/4 Put y=1/3 into \(\frac{\sqrt{3} }{ 6\sqrt{y} } = x\) x = ...? Put y = 1/4 into \(\frac{\sqrt{3} }{ 6\sqrt{y} } = x\) x = ...?
x= half x = sqrt 3 over half
Second one is not quite right :|
sqrt 3 over 3?
Yup, so now, you have two pairs of solutions, \((\frac{1}{2} , \frac{1}{3})\) and \((\frac{\sqrt{3}}{3}, \frac{1}{4})\) Consider\(\sqrt{\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }- \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }} = x - \sqrt{y}\) Pick the suitable pair now!
i cant read it, too small... 1 over what?
\[(\frac{1}{2}, \frac{1}{3})\] and \[(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{3}, \frac{1}{4})\]
aint both pair suitable? ill pick 1 over 3 and 1 over 4?
\[\huge\ \sqrt{\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }- \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }} = x - \sqrt{y}\]
No, they are not the same. When you take the square root, the right side should be +ve. One pair gives you a -ve result. Check it~
oh yea... so answer would be the half and sqrt 3 over 3
Wait *~*
\[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } - \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 3 }\]
no?
Check to see if it is +ve or -ve :|
thats negative
Can we have a negative number after taking the square root? :|
ofc not :P
So, that is wrong :|
so what would it be?
What is the other pair?
1r4 1r3
\[(\frac{1}{2}, \frac{1}{3})\] \[(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{3}, \frac{1}{4})\] Which one was the pair you'd just tried and it was wrong?
Top one or bottom one?
umm top?
Yup, so the bottom one is the correct one :|
ahh ok..
Do... you ... understand???
yea
Okay :)
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like a hours worth :P
You're welcome! (Nice LaTeX! ) Sorry that I didn't replied promptly :( I'm not feeling well and my brain was(is) working very slow!
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