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OpenStudy (anonymous):

simple harmonic motion dynamics

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@kirtishukla first of all, \[\huge \color{green}{\text{WELCOME TO OPENSTUDY!}}\]

Parth (parthkohli):

Hmm - Physics?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

now this section is specially for math questions, so its adviced you close this question and post it in physics section .Also be a bit more clear in your question.

OpenStudy (shubhamsrg):

Well I believe physics questions should be allowed in mathematics section , physics is afterall an application of mathematics.

Parth (parthkohli):

Yes, but this is more of a physical question than it is mathematical.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

agreed with shubhamsrg

OpenStudy (aravindg):

well, \[\large \rm \boxed{x=a \cos (\omega t+\phi )}\] is the displacement time equation of SHM in which A,\(\omega \),and \(\phi\) represent amplitude,angular frequency and phase constant respectively.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no this is from my dynamics book

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ok @kirtishukla did you understand that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya i knew that one but that is of physics part iam asking abt maths one

OpenStudy (aravindg):

can you provide the exact question you have?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x=a \cos \sqrt{?u} t \] t\]

OpenStudy (aravindg):

question mark inside root?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nothing is there qstion mark is by mistake

OpenStudy (aravindg):

did you mean \[\LARGE \boxed{x=a \cos \sqrt{ut}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

t is out from underroot u

OpenStudy (aravindg):

ok :) @ParthKohli was actually practising along with answering

OpenStudy (aravindg):

what do you understand when you compare this with the displacement time equation of SHM?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

@kirtishukla ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here phase difference is not present

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i wanna simply ask when double differntiation of x with respect to t is taken equivalent to -kx then why - sign is taken

OpenStudy (aravindg):

second derivative is taken to get equation of velocity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why - sign is taken

OpenStudy (aravindg):

differential of \[\cos \theta =?\]

OpenStudy (aravindg):

*"derivative" is better term

OpenStudy (aravindg):

gt it @kirtishukla ?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

here is a nice document on SHM that can help you http://www.physnet.org/modules/pdf_modules/m25.pdf

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-sin \[-\sin \]

OpenStudy (aravindg):

that is why equation of velcoty contains negative sign

OpenStudy (aravindg):

*velocity

OpenStudy (aravindg):

*velocity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but iam asking abt hey just hav the visit of bsc part 2 dynamics then topic shm then re tell me

OpenStudy (aravindg):

bsc ? maybe a friend of mine can help.... i am in high school :) @nitz can you take a look?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do u know complex exponentials?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll take the physics approach here....since you're asking for the minus sign are you familiar with vectors? in this case, please note that the second derivative of the sine wave equation will result in \(a=-\omega^2x\) [i'm taking that u know this] from a simple horizontal spring mass system SHM, |dw:1359197418567:dw| now, there would be force acting in the different direction as the velocity and the displacement. so, taking the displacement direction as +ve, \(\Sigma \vec F= \vec F_s =m\vec a\) \(-kx=m(-\omega^2x)\) [note that in F=kx, while the displacement is +ve, the force itself is -ve] so it will be \(\omega = \sqrt \frac{k}{m}\)

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